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<blockquote data-quote="Sarellion" data-source="post: 2967154" data-attributes="member: 6254">Charm Person is a nice spell but still limited. I wonder why it is hyped so much as the mastermind´s control spell.The above example of the OM charming a barbarian and turning against the group wouldn´t work. The charmed person will not do obviously harmful things and the OM has to win an opposed charisma check in the first place to give orders. Otherwise he will be regarded as friend and ally but that doesn´t mean that the charmed person will do everything the Mage wants.Also I don´t know how the OM would keep up his guise in the court of a noble mentioned somewhere in this thread. He is still an ogre and doesn´t know how to behave in human society (in the standard settings at least). How many people do you think the OM will charm? The whole court? Without modifying charm person totally impossible as the duration is too short and even modified, one charm per day is not enough to do such a stunt.The Ogre Mage can establish dominance in ogre or similar society where his powers will gain him a position as leader or shaman.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sarellion, post: 2967154, member: 6254"] Charm Person is a nice spell but still limited. I wonder why it is hyped so much as the mastermind´s control spell. The above example of the OM charming a barbarian and turning against the group wouldn´t work. The charmed person will not do obviously harmful things and the OM has to win an opposed charisma check in the first place to give orders. Otherwise he will be regarded as friend and ally but that doesn´t mean that the charmed person will do everything the Mage wants. Also I don´t know how the OM would keep up his guise in the court of a noble mentioned somewhere in this thread. He is still an ogre and doesn´t know how to behave in human society (in the standard settings at least). How many people do you think the OM will charm? The whole court? Without modifying charm person totally impossible as the duration is too short and even modified, one charm per day is not enough to do such a stunt. The Ogre Mage can establish dominance in ogre or similar society where his powers will gain him a position as leader or shaman. [/QUOTE]

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