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Message: <blockquote data-quote="amerigoV" data-source="post: 5599688">I have a corollary to it: It they want to unite, they need to focus on new ideas and not new systems. The fracture comes from the edition treadmill - if I spend $1000 on edition X, I will be leery of edition Y when it is introduced if I need to spend another $1000 to run essentially the same game (yes, I know I can just buy one or two books, but we are in a hobby and want to spend money). I thought 2e was a mess mechanically (others may disagree), but both 3e and 4e are very sound. Sure they have their problems, but the person paying a ton of dough for one of them is generally happy through the cycle until they get to the end - usually when the Book of Artifacts and very experimental PC crunch books roll into town. Its hard to compel someone to move on when they are not all that upset at what they got and you are literally offering the same thing with new numbers.Unfortunately, D&D is in the position where player and GM crunch is the moneymaker. Until this cycle is broken (ie, they need to sell new content like Eberron was in 3e), they can print all the editions they want with those "D&D" elements and you will see the population continue to fracture.Its funny, if Wizards announced 5e at GenCon half this board would erupt in fits of angst (and another half would snicker, and the third half would run out an buy it). Immediate accusations of "money grubbing" would surface in seconds after the announcement. Over at Pinnacle (Savage Worlds), people are screaming at them to allow them to give Pinnacle money for the equivalent of going from D&D 3.0 to 3.5 - mostly minor tweaks from what they have said. I have not seen a negative word yet - heck I even tried to start an edition war and it went nowhere. Why the difference? D&D update/new edition = tons of new books of regurgitated old material (PHB 1-3, DMG 1-2, MM 1-5 - update of classic modules (Expedition to...Return to...) - update the campaign settings (FR, Eberron) - you can set your watch by it). SW: One book, and it does not make all the other books useless, and people continue to make cool new settings like Day After Ragnarok, Runepunk, Agents of Oblivion, and more Deadlands.</blockquote>

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