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Message: <blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 8391031" data-attributes="member: 92511">Uhmmm...ok...Let's see what I can throw together off the top of my head (several of these are probably already in other posts, I would imagine)Well, you mentioned the first big/noticeable one: Race as Class. From there we go to Race AND Class...Races in B/X-BECMI: Human, Elf, Dwarf, Halfling. Done.Races in AD&D: Human, Elf (assumed High), Dwarf (Hill or Mountain), Halfling (Hairfoot, Stout or Tallfellow), Half-elf, Half-orc, Gnome. AND, with 1e's Unearthed Arcana, almost all non-humans get 1-5 subraces that became playable options.Classes in Basic: Fighter, Magic-User, Cleric, Thief (available to Humans only!), Elf (Ftr/MU, basically) as class, Dwarf (Ftr) as class, Halfling (Ftr/Thf, basically) as class.Classes in AD&D: Fighter, Magic-User, Cleric, Thief, Paladin, Ranger, Druid, Illusionist, Assassin, Monk...arguably, in appendices, Bard and Psionicist.  Cavalier, Barbarian, and Acrobat added in 1e's Unearthed Arcana.ALIGNMENT! In Basic: Lawful, Neutral, Chaotic.In AD&D an Ethos axis (Lawful, Neutral, Chaotic) and a Mores axis (Good, Neutral, Evil) and, thus, the Nine combinations of Alignment.Multiclassing in Basic: nonexistent.Multiclassing in AD&D: available to non-human options in completely independent combinations, e.g. Dwarves couldn't be the same classes or class combo's as Half-orcs who couldn't be the same classes/combos as Elves, etc... Humans were allowed "Dual classing" but not multiclassing.Equipment: AD&D had exponentially more options for armors and weapons than B/X/ECMI.In AD&D Casting times for spells and Weapon Speeds were a thing for combat, not that we necessarily used them religiously (or at all, from game to game). Not so in Basic.I feel like there were other "in combat" round by round kind of differences, but not really remembering what they were. Initiative was basically the same, I think...There was "Side vs. Side" combat tracking versus individual, but that was Basic and AD&D. Changed to the individual initiative we know today in later editions.Spell lists in AD&D were significantly more beefed up than in Basic. Especially after 1eUA. Treasure and Magic Item lists were significantly more beefed up in AD&D than Basic. AD&D had Artifacts/Relics. You really didn't get to/see "Artifact" level items in Basic until/unless you got to the "Companion" (i.e. "C") set of BECMI. B/X didn't have them at all.AD&D had a chart for EVVVVerything. There was a %die for just about anything you needed. Basic used percentile dice much less, though both used them for Thieves Skills.Think that's about it that i can come up with without pulling out books... So, yeah, there were some significant differences but the general playing of the game - ability scores, saving throws, how to roll attacks and damage (even if the damage die was different), and so on - was mostly the same/easily transferable.</blockquote>

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