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<blockquote data-quote="Sword of Spirit" data-source="post: 7388573" data-attributes="member: 6677017"><p>I think the suggestions in the SCAG really botched on the Knights of Solamnia category. The suggested Oath of the Crown for Sword Knights, and Purple Dragon Knight for Rose Knights. If they weren't <em>only</em> suggesting new material from the SCAG, and had also referenced stuff from the PHB for completeness, they could have probably done better. Oath of Devotion is a better fit for Knight of the Sword, and Oath of the Crown for Knight of the Rose.</p><p></p><p>Here's the best solution I can think of, though it requires two new subclasses (my solution involving no new subclasses was a mess):</p><p></p><p>1) The book includes the fighter Knight of the Crown subclass, and the paladin Knight of the Sword subclass.</p><p>2) Knight of the Rose is a role-playing fluff element that a paladin with the Knight of the Sword subclass can attain.</p><p>3) To respect multiclassing as an optional element, the default would assume Knights of the Sword just start as paladins, inconsistent as that may be.</p><p>4) A sidebar specifies that if your campaign uses multiclassing, Knights of the Sword and Rose begin as fighters and take the Knight of the Crown subclass, and then multiclass into paladin and Knight of the Sword subclass. </p><p>5) The sidebar could comment that Knights of the Rose are as likely to take additional fighter levels as paladin levels, while Knights of the Sword prefer mostly paladin levels.</p><p></p><p>And that's about as close as we get while leaving Knights of the Crown as non-magical fighters. Of course, if we were willing to ditch that part, we could just make Knight of Solamnia a paladin subclass and make orders role-playing fluff rather than mechanical. But I'm not sure if that would be appropriate.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Knights of Takhisis could be entirely fluff. All they'd need to do is specific which subclasses are appropriate (from already existing subclasses).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What you just described (along with other details I recall) is about as far as you can get from generic and still be western (medieval) fantasy. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sword of Spirit, post: 7388573, member: 6677017"] I think the suggestions in the SCAG really botched on the Knights of Solamnia category. The suggested Oath of the Crown for Sword Knights, and Purple Dragon Knight for Rose Knights. If they weren't [I]only[/I] suggesting new material from the SCAG, and had also referenced stuff from the PHB for completeness, they could have probably done better. Oath of Devotion is a better fit for Knight of the Sword, and Oath of the Crown for Knight of the Rose. Here's the best solution I can think of, though it requires two new subclasses (my solution involving no new subclasses was a mess): 1) The book includes the fighter Knight of the Crown subclass, and the paladin Knight of the Sword subclass. 2) Knight of the Rose is a role-playing fluff element that a paladin with the Knight of the Sword subclass can attain. 3) To respect multiclassing as an optional element, the default would assume Knights of the Sword just start as paladins, inconsistent as that may be. 4) A sidebar specifies that if your campaign uses multiclassing, Knights of the Sword and Rose begin as fighters and take the Knight of the Crown subclass, and then multiclass into paladin and Knight of the Sword subclass. 5) The sidebar could comment that Knights of the Rose are as likely to take additional fighter levels as paladin levels, while Knights of the Sword prefer mostly paladin levels. And that's about as close as we get while leaving Knights of the Crown as non-magical fighters. Of course, if we were willing to ditch that part, we could just make Knight of Solamnia a paladin subclass and make orders role-playing fluff rather than mechanical. But I'm not sure if that would be appropriate. Knights of Takhisis could be entirely fluff. All they'd need to do is specific which subclasses are appropriate (from already existing subclasses). What you just described (along with other details I recall) is about as far as you can get from generic and still be western (medieval) fantasy. ;) [/QUOTE]
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