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Message: <blockquote data-quote="moritheil" data-source="post: 2474097" data-attributes="member: 30610">This is not a fair example, but in the interests of trying to work with you, I'll play along:You can no longer make use of your car insurance as long as you don't have a car, in the sense that you can't use it to insure you against collisions that you cause due to driving in your car.Now, the reason it's not a fair example is that car insurance often applies to you when you're driving other cars. When you're driving your friend Bob's car, for example, depending on the stipulations of your car insurance company, your car insurance might still be relevant.  Furthermore, the car insurance company does not fundamentally care whether or not you have a car - they care about your record, etc.  If you don't have a car, you're paying them money for a service you aren't using.  To them, that's great!If, however, the only time that your car insurance ever applies is when you drive, and the only vehicle you can ever drive is your own car, then I would say that the fact that your car doesn't run means that you aren't deriving any benefit from your car insurance. This is due to the setup of things.Similarly, you aren't deriving any benefit from Power Attack when your strength is gone - including the benefit of qualifying for Cleave. This is due to the setup of things. (Power Attack is the prereq for Cleave, etc.)A fairer example would be "Can you defeat Nixon in a presidential race?"For you to race, you must be alive.  For him to race, he must be alive.Nixon is not alive.Thus, Nixon cannot run for the presidency.Thus, you cannot defeat Nixon in a presidential race, because he can't run.</blockquote>

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