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Message: <blockquote data-quote="moritheil" data-source="post: 2474206" data-attributes="member: 30610">No, my statement is entirely valid.  You can't prove that you can use the feat to qualify for other feats because that little snippet of text you have from the SRD doesn't explicitly state so.  Please stop waving it around as if it does, and actually look at the thing. You state that it doesn't need to state it, but that's because you refuse to consider the possibility that you cannot use a feat you currently do not have access to to meet the requirements of other feats.  You further state that my assertions are unqualified, and try to claim legitimacy, when in reality, yours aren't any better qualified.  You don't seem to like my arguments, perhaps because I put in the throwaway line about Ranger, since Patryn had covered the most direct argument and I had to put in something new if I was going to be contributing to the thread.  I suspect that this biased you against all my subsequent statements.  Or maybe it was my admittedly sloppy shortening of "does not have, for all intents and purposes, because he does not have access to" to "does not have."I tried to follow your arguments and got stuck.  You assert that feats are training, and the product of hard work, after I mention Bloodline of Fire.  Could you maybe give me a run-through of how one can work hard, and be born by a Calishite descended from effreeti?  As I said above, if you can explain that to me, I'll probably understand the rest.</blockquote>

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