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<blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 2474222" data-attributes="member: 5777"><p>The burden of proof is way in your court, and you have put up nothing to support your position.</p><p></p><p>By default, you have the feat. All that you need for other feats in the chain is to 'have' the prereqs, not be able to 'use' them.</p><p></p><p>Again, the burden of proof is on you. Without it the default will be as I have said it, unless someone wishes to houserule it.</p><p></p><p>You have the feat, if you fail in the prereqs you still have it, you simply cannot use it.</p><p></p><p>This mystical 'have but doesnt count for anything' as far as I can tell you made up wholecloth.</p><p></p><p>Provide some proof.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My guess is that this is because you simply want what you are saying to be true, even in the face of evidence to the contrary. Even when you yourself can provide no evidence at all.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I explained this before, but you are taking it the wrong way.</p><p></p><p>The prereq for the feat is that you were born a certain way, the 'feat' itself is training yourself to be able to use this ability.</p><p></p><p>There could very well be people out there with the same, or at least very similar, bloodline but they dont get the ability. Because they didnt take the feat. They didnt figure out how to make it work and so it is forever lost to them (if this feat can only be taken at first level, I have no idea where it is from or what it does, I can only assume from what you have written).</p><p></p><p>You are talking about one conclusion and useing pieces from a different arguement, they do not connect in the way you are placing them.</p><p></p><p>The being born a certain way is a prereq, it is something that is just like having that str of 13 in this instance.</p><p></p><p>The actual feat is bringing forth your ability to 'use' it for something.</p><p></p><p>Without that feat the bloodline doesnt matter at all, a person could just say, 'I have blood of the whatever in me somewhere' and generally it'd be ok. No game effect (unless the dm wants to make it so, but then it is out of the pcs hands).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scion, post: 2474222, member: 5777"] The burden of proof is way in your court, and you have put up nothing to support your position. By default, you have the feat. All that you need for other feats in the chain is to 'have' the prereqs, not be able to 'use' them. Again, the burden of proof is on you. Without it the default will be as I have said it, unless someone wishes to houserule it. You have the feat, if you fail in the prereqs you still have it, you simply cannot use it. This mystical 'have but doesnt count for anything' as far as I can tell you made up wholecloth. Provide some proof. My guess is that this is because you simply want what you are saying to be true, even in the face of evidence to the contrary. Even when you yourself can provide no evidence at all. I explained this before, but you are taking it the wrong way. The prereq for the feat is that you were born a certain way, the 'feat' itself is training yourself to be able to use this ability. There could very well be people out there with the same, or at least very similar, bloodline but they dont get the ability. Because they didnt take the feat. They didnt figure out how to make it work and so it is forever lost to them (if this feat can only be taken at first level, I have no idea where it is from or what it does, I can only assume from what you have written). You are talking about one conclusion and useing pieces from a different arguement, they do not connect in the way you are placing them. The being born a certain way is a prereq, it is something that is just like having that str of 13 in this instance. The actual feat is bringing forth your ability to 'use' it for something. Without that feat the bloodline doesnt matter at all, a person could just say, 'I have blood of the whatever in me somewhere' and generally it'd be ok. No game effect (unless the dm wants to make it so, but then it is out of the pcs hands). [/QUOTE]
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