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<blockquote data-quote="Quasqueton" data-source="post: 2169675" data-attributes="member: 3854"><p>Interesting that so many responders took a metagame view. Called it a railroad and dismiss it. You can't see the scenario as a "legitimate" situation?</p><p></p><p>5th-level PCs find themselves standing in the middle of a dragon's den, with the CR 25 dragon on a ledge above them. "You will bring me more treasure..."</p><p></p><p>2nd-level PCs are taken before the emporer. "I have need of persons my enemies will not suspect..."</p><p></p><p>10th-level PCs release a djinni sultan from his bottle. "I cannot move my own bottle, so you will..."</p><p></p><p>This question was prompted by something I read recently that made me think of some PCs I've had in my games. It seems there is always one in every group who refuses to be "duely impressed" with an obviously superior bad ass (OSBA). Either the OSBA decides the PCs could be useful or the DM tries to give the PCs a way out. And then either one or all of the PCs just fail to realize the gravity of their predicament. </p><p></p><p>Or the Players start thinking in metagame terms, and decide to not play in character. "I refuse to be railroaded."</p><p></p><p>You know, railroads are not only constructs of poor DMs. PCs can build their own railroad, in game. The call of "railroading" is sometimes the resort of poor Players, too.</p><p></p><p>Players: "We don't want to play a demon-fighting campaign."</p><p></p><p>DM: "Well, you shouldn't have opened that door that said, 'Warning! Demons held behind this portal.'"</p><p></p><p>Quasqueton</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quasqueton, post: 2169675, member: 3854"] Interesting that so many responders took a metagame view. Called it a railroad and dismiss it. You can't see the scenario as a "legitimate" situation? 5th-level PCs find themselves standing in the middle of a dragon's den, with the CR 25 dragon on a ledge above them. "You will bring me more treasure..." 2nd-level PCs are taken before the emporer. "I have need of persons my enemies will not suspect..." 10th-level PCs release a djinni sultan from his bottle. "I cannot move my own bottle, so you will..." This question was prompted by something I read recently that made me think of some PCs I've had in my games. It seems there is always one in every group who refuses to be "duely impressed" with an obviously superior bad ass (OSBA). Either the OSBA decides the PCs could be useful or the DM tries to give the PCs a way out. And then either one or all of the PCs just fail to realize the gravity of their predicament. Or the Players start thinking in metagame terms, and decide to not play in character. "I refuse to be railroaded." You know, railroads are not only constructs of poor DMs. PCs can build their own railroad, in game. The call of "railroading" is sometimes the resort of poor Players, too. Players: "We don't want to play a demon-fighting campaign." DM: "Well, you shouldn't have opened that door that said, 'Warning! Demons held behind this portal.'" Quasqueton [/QUOTE]
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