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<blockquote data-quote="Ryltar" data-source="post: 2172956" data-attributes="member: 19393">I've gotta agree with you here, Quasqueton, and I've had this problem as well.Explanation: While I, as a DM try to avoid so-called railroads at all costs - <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!&nbsp; &nbsp; :eek:"&nbsp; data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /> - my players seem to *want* me to railroad. They just don't like the kind of game where they decide what happens - already tried that.However, it is my style of GMing to present to the PCs a &quot;living, breathing&quot; world, in which not everything is tailored to their party level and resources, despite of the above fact. So, I've had quite a number of situations where my players got their characters into a situation like the one you mentioned - a situation, in which railroading would have been the only key to saving the characters, considering their behavior toward the OSBA - and *then* proceed to go the &quot;What if we say no?&quot; way.Usually, that's when I have to stop the game for a minute and tell them, OOC, that they got themselves into this, and that they've got to live with the choices they made.Of course, this is not exactly the solution I would like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown&nbsp; &nbsp; :("&nbsp; data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> - stuff like that should be obvious from an IG point of view. So, I'm very much interested if anything develops from this thread.I don't think there is any solution to this dilemma, except for hoping the PCs will react accordingly to the situation, and not in a &quot;lets screw the DM&quot; kind of way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ryltar, post: 2172956, member: 19393"] I've gotta agree with you here, Quasqueton, and I've had this problem as well. Explanation: While I, as a DM try to avoid so-called railroads at all costs - :eek: - my players seem to *want* me to railroad. They just don't like the kind of game where they decide what happens - already tried that. However, it is my style of GMing to present to the PCs a "living, breathing" world, in which not everything is tailored to their party level and resources, despite of the above fact. So, I've had quite a number of situations where my players got their characters into a situation like the one you mentioned - a situation, in which railroading would have been the only key to saving the characters, considering their behavior toward the OSBA - and *then* proceed to go the "What if we say no?" way. Usually, that's when I have to stop the game for a minute and tell them, OOC, that they got themselves into this, and that they've got to live with the choices they made. Of course, this is not exactly the solution I would like :( - stuff like that should be obvious from an IG point of view. So, I'm very much interested if anything develops from this thread. I don't think there is any solution to this dilemma, except for hoping the PCs will react accordingly to the situation, and not in a "lets screw the DM" kind of way. [/QUOTE]

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