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<blockquote data-quote="TheAuldGrump" data-source="post: 2179578" data-attributes="member: 6957"><p>You know, the closest I have ever seen to the first example was when the price that the DM tried was greater than the item was worth. And even that happened only once, the PCs returning the magic item. The DM went off in a huff, but frankly the item (+2 Flametongue) was not worth going after a very old red dragon with 7th level characters - and the sword wouldn't even be very effective against it! The DM has since stopped DMing, feeling that 3.X 'hamstrings DMs too much in the name of balance.' (That is a quote by the way.) He also started new characters at 1st level regardless of the experience level of the rest of the party.</p><p></p><p>The same DM would try the 2nd scenario on occassion too. I quit after the second or third time, but I have friends who stayed with the game, and all I ever heard were complaints about the DM. I could not help but wonder why they continued playing in his game. </p><p></p><p>Sadly he was not the only DM I have seen trying those shenanigans. I have come to fear the phrase 'I am not only running an adventure - I am telling a story!' It always seems to mean 'I am going to tell you what happens, and nothing that you can do will prevent it!'</p><p></p><p>The Auld Grump</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheAuldGrump, post: 2179578, member: 6957"] You know, the closest I have ever seen to the first example was when the price that the DM tried was greater than the item was worth. And even that happened only once, the PCs returning the magic item. The DM went off in a huff, but frankly the item (+2 Flametongue) was not worth going after a very old red dragon with 7th level characters - and the sword wouldn't even be very effective against it! The DM has since stopped DMing, feeling that 3.X 'hamstrings DMs too much in the name of balance.' (That is a quote by the way.) He also started new characters at 1st level regardless of the experience level of the rest of the party. The same DM would try the 2nd scenario on occassion too. I quit after the second or third time, but I have friends who stayed with the game, and all I ever heard were complaints about the DM. I could not help but wonder why they continued playing in his game. Sadly he was not the only DM I have seen trying those shenanigans. I have come to fear the phrase 'I am not only running an adventure - I am telling a story!' It always seems to mean 'I am going to tell you what happens, and nothing that you can do will prevent it!' The Auld Grump [/QUOTE]
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