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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7294552" data-attributes="member: 20564"><p>Using the "standard" 65% to hit, you've got about a 12% chance to miss with both. Say once every three combats, about twice a day.</p><p></p><p>If you're pulling out a 3rd level spell to Smite because it's a particularly difficult opponent, say 50% chance to hit so a 25% chance to miss twice.</p><p></p><p>With a decent CON and CHR (Aura of Protection), say +7 total at 9th, but not proficient in CON saves, you only fail the most basic DC 10 concentration check 10% of the time. But at 9th level (min to get 3rd level paladin spells), the DMG suggests a CR 9 foe as 57-62 damage per round. Call it 60. In a single attack it's DC 30, impossible to make. In two attacks it's DC 15, with a 65% chance to succeed at one, and about a 42% chance to succeed at both.</p><p></p><p>So ... at around 9th level, missing twice and failing a Con save should happen once or twice an adventuring day. Not a huge risk, but one that exists.</p><p></p><p>As for "why would I ever do this again". It could be:</p><p></p><p>You have advantage or some other bonus to hit like Bless from some other PC's action.</p><p>Blinding this particular foe will be a really big help, either in winning quickly (and saving other resources) or more importantly but turning around a combat that is going pear shaped.</p><p>You have a short time frame to do massive damage and a smite spell plus a Divine Smite are your best chance to do that.</p><p></p><p>Your risk isn't all that high, but it will happen occasionally. You trade your bonus action, d8 of radiant damage (a Divine Smite with the slot would give 4d8), and a bit of risk for the chance to deliver a very powerful condition. Pick the targets it's worthwhile to spend those and use it then.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blue, post: 7294552, member: 20564"] Using the "standard" 65% to hit, you've got about a 12% chance to miss with both. Say once every three combats, about twice a day. If you're pulling out a 3rd level spell to Smite because it's a particularly difficult opponent, say 50% chance to hit so a 25% chance to miss twice. With a decent CON and CHR (Aura of Protection), say +7 total at 9th, but not proficient in CON saves, you only fail the most basic DC 10 concentration check 10% of the time. But at 9th level (min to get 3rd level paladin spells), the DMG suggests a CR 9 foe as 57-62 damage per round. Call it 60. In a single attack it's DC 30, impossible to make. In two attacks it's DC 15, with a 65% chance to succeed at one, and about a 42% chance to succeed at both. So ... at around 9th level, missing twice and failing a Con save should happen once or twice an adventuring day. Not a huge risk, but one that exists. As for "why would I ever do this again". It could be: You have advantage or some other bonus to hit like Bless from some other PC's action. Blinding this particular foe will be a really big help, either in winning quickly (and saving other resources) or more importantly but turning around a combat that is going pear shaped. You have a short time frame to do massive damage and a smite spell plus a Divine Smite are your best chance to do that. Your risk isn't all that high, but it will happen occasionally. You trade your bonus action, d8 of radiant damage (a Divine Smite with the slot would give 4d8), and a bit of risk for the chance to deliver a very powerful condition. Pick the targets it's worthwhile to spend those and use it then. [/QUOTE]
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