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<blockquote data-quote="Kordeth" data-source="post: 4557165" data-attributes="member: 5036"><p>Well, no, not really. The aggregate differences between the two certainly add up over time, but even on a single die roll, Twin Strike is significantly better.</p><p></p><p>Rolling twice is, statistically, about the equivalent to getting a +4 bonus on an attack roll (there's some more wonky math in there, but that will do for a simplification). A single hit with one Twin Strike attack will do the exact same amount of damage as a hit with Careful Attack. Effectively, you're choosing between a +2 to hit and a +4 to hit <em>and</em> a decent chance of doubling your damage output.</p><p></p><p>Consider: You attack a monster. You'll hit the monster on a roll of 11 or better if you make an unmodified attack, and you're using a bastard sword.</p><p></p><p>- Careful Attack drops your hit requirement to 9--you now have a 60% chance to inflict 1d10 damage.</p><p></p><p>- Twin Strike lets you roll twice. That means that, with a hit requirement of 11, you have a 75% chance to inflict 1d10 points of damage, and a 25% chance to inflict 2d10 damage. When you start adding feat and enhancement bonuses, that double damage gets even better.</p><p></p><p>As written, there is literally <em>no</em> circumstance in which it is, from a mathematical perspective, better to use Careful Attack than Twin Strike.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There are very few powers in 4E that <em>directly compete</em> the way Twin Strike and Careful Attack compete. Either similar powers are on different class lists, they're different levels, or their additional effects are different enough that using them becomes a tactical choice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kordeth, post: 4557165, member: 5036"] Well, no, not really. The aggregate differences between the two certainly add up over time, but even on a single die roll, Twin Strike is significantly better. Rolling twice is, statistically, about the equivalent to getting a +4 bonus on an attack roll (there's some more wonky math in there, but that will do for a simplification). A single hit with one Twin Strike attack will do the exact same amount of damage as a hit with Careful Attack. Effectively, you're choosing between a +2 to hit and a +4 to hit [i]and[/i] a decent chance of doubling your damage output. Consider: You attack a monster. You'll hit the monster on a roll of 11 or better if you make an unmodified attack, and you're using a bastard sword. - Careful Attack drops your hit requirement to 9--you now have a 60% chance to inflict 1d10 damage. - Twin Strike lets you roll twice. That means that, with a hit requirement of 11, you have a 75% chance to inflict 1d10 points of damage, and a 25% chance to inflict 2d10 damage. When you start adding feat and enhancement bonuses, that double damage gets even better. As written, there is literally [i]no[/i] circumstance in which it is, from a mathematical perspective, better to use Careful Attack than Twin Strike. There are very few powers in 4E that [i]directly compete[/i] the way Twin Strike and Careful Attack compete. Either similar powers are on different class lists, they're different levels, or their additional effects are different enough that using them becomes a tactical choice. [/QUOTE]
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