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<blockquote data-quote="Majere" data-source="post: 1714510" data-attributes="member: 13916"><p>Note:</p><p>I corrected one or two errors in my first post so its worth looking back to make comparisons</p><p></p><p></p><p>Dwarfy McBeard: Fighter 20</p><p>Important additional feats:</p><p>Great fortitude</p><p>Greater weapon specialisation</p><p></p><p>Ac 27</p><p>Average Damage/round with no PA = 191.52 (223.44 vs Evil)</p><p>Average Damage/round with OPA = 244.62 (270.24 vs Evil)</p><p>Average Damage taken: = 113.68875 +23 (Vicious weapon)</p><p></p><p>Saves : +26 +18 +18</p><p></p><p>Dwarfy McBuff</p><p>Ac 45</p><p>Average Damage/round with no PA = 264.48 (296.4vs Evil)</p><p>Average Damage/round with OPA = 388.74 (417.6 vs Evil)</p><p>Average Damage taken: = 23.058 +23 (Viscious weapon)</p><p> (27.091 after stoneskin is taken into account)</p><p></p><p>Saves : +31, +23, +23</p><p></p><p></p><p>Comments</p><p>4 points lost from will save</p><p>Damage taken increases by about 34 points</p><p>Damage dealt increases by about 17 points</p><p></p><p></p><p>So yes a Dwarven defender is stronger than a straight fighter, but not by as much as you might think. </p><p>Infact, if you spend a little money on adamantite armor giving the fighter DR 3/- Then the increase in damage taken falls by 12 points. That would require changing the armor from mithrial and a whole new set of maths, but the increase in damage taken can be offset to about 25.</p><p></p><p>And when both of then are buffed the increase in damage taken is only 4 points, but the increase in damage dealt is around 40</p><p></p><p>So if You can get you buffs up, the fighter is much better than the Dwarven defender. If you caught with your pants down, the natuaral DR and ac bonus of the dwarven defender wins out over the greater weapon specialisation.</p><p></p><p>Majere</p><p>Posts you the level 20 fighter you asked for.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Majere, post: 1714510, member: 13916"] Note: I corrected one or two errors in my first post so its worth looking back to make comparisons Dwarfy McBeard: Fighter 20 Important additional feats: Great fortitude Greater weapon specialisation Ac 27 Average Damage/round with no PA = 191.52 (223.44 vs Evil) Average Damage/round with OPA = 244.62 (270.24 vs Evil) Average Damage taken: = 113.68875 +23 (Vicious weapon) Saves : +26 +18 +18 Dwarfy McBuff Ac 45 Average Damage/round with no PA = 264.48 (296.4vs Evil) Average Damage/round with OPA = 388.74 (417.6 vs Evil) Average Damage taken: = 23.058 +23 (Viscious weapon) (27.091 after stoneskin is taken into account) Saves : +31, +23, +23 Comments 4 points lost from will save Damage taken increases by about 34 points Damage dealt increases by about 17 points So yes a Dwarven defender is stronger than a straight fighter, but not by as much as you might think. Infact, if you spend a little money on adamantite armor giving the fighter DR 3/- Then the increase in damage taken falls by 12 points. That would require changing the armor from mithrial and a whole new set of maths, but the increase in damage taken can be offset to about 25. And when both of then are buffed the increase in damage taken is only 4 points, but the increase in damage dealt is around 40 So if You can get you buffs up, the fighter is much better than the Dwarven defender. If you caught with your pants down, the natuaral DR and ac bonus of the dwarven defender wins out over the greater weapon specialisation. Majere Posts you the level 20 fighter you asked for. [/QUOTE]
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