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<blockquote data-quote="Majere" data-source="post: 1715176" data-attributes="member: 13916">AsideDwarfy Mc MunchkinRace : DwarfFighter (12) Paladin (8)Stats&nbsp; &nbsp; B R L M E TStr 14&nbsp; +5+6+1: 26Dex 11&nbsp; &nbsp; +6&nbsp; : 17Con 14+2&nbsp; +2&nbsp; : 18Int 8&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; : 8Wis 12&nbsp; &nbsp; +6&nbsp; : 18Cha 14-2&nbsp; +2&nbsp; : 14&nbsp; Feats1: Weapon Focus3: Iron Will6: Improved Two-Weapon Fighting9: Improved critical12: Greater two weapon fighting15: Lightning reflexes18: Great fortiftude1: Ambidexterity2: Two weapon fighting4: Weapon Sepcialisation6: Improved Initiative8: Greater weapon focus10: Power Attack12: Greater weapon specialisationClass abilitiesAura of GoodDetect evil at willLay on hands ( 16/day)Aura of Courage (Immune Fear, those within 10' get +4 morale vs fear)Divine health (Immune to all diseases)Smite Evil (2/day, +2 to hit, +8 damage)Spells1st : Bless Weapon2nd : (Stuff)EquipmentAdamantite Full plate (+1)[Heavy Fortification,Ghost touch]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; {Acid/Cold/Fire/Electrcity/Sonic Resistance [10]}&nbsp; - 187,650Large Steel Shield&nbsp; &nbsp; (+1)[Animated, Ghost touch]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; - 36,170Double Sword (+1)[Vicious,Holy,Axiomatic,Wounding] (CI) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (+1)[Holy,Wounding,Speed] (Ada) - 262,050Belt Of Giants strength (+6) -36000 Gloves of Dexterity (+6)&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -36000Pariant of Wisdom (+6)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -36000Ring of freedom of action&nbsp; &nbsp; -40000Cloak of resistance +5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -25000Boots of striding/springing&nbsp; -5500Manual gainful exercise (1)&nbsp; -27500Silver Sheen (4)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -1000Necklace of Adaptation&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -9000Ioun stones&nbsp;Dusty Rose&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -5000&nbsp;Pale green&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -30000&nbsp;Pink&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -8000 &nbsp;Pink and Green&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -8000Misc Gear that isnt important to this thread -8130Stats:Drawfy McMixHp : 115+80&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; = 195Fort : 14+4+5+5&nbsp;&nbsp; = +28Ref&nbsp; : 6 +3+5+5&nbsp;&nbsp; = +19Will : 6 +4+5+5&nbsp;&nbsp; = +20+2 vs Magic+2 vs PoisonAcFull : 10+9+1+3+1= 24Touch: 10&nbsp; +1&nbsp; +1= 12Attacks: +20(BAB)+8(Str)+2(GWF)+1(Ins)-2(2WF)- +29+29/+24/+19/+14 - D8+8+1+4+6d6+1Con+29/+29/+24/+19 - D8+4+1+4+2d6+1con-15Av Con damage - 3.75 Av Damage (No PA)&nbsp; - 86.17 (+37.5)Av Damage (Opt PA) - 86.17 (+37.5)Av Damage (Smites) - 107.77(+37.5)&nbsp;Fighting with a two handed weapon:+31/+26/+21/+16 - d8+12+1+4+6d6+1conAv Con damage - 19Av Damage (No PA)&nbsp; - 88.825 (+19)Av Damage (Opt PA) - 88.825 (+19)Av Damage (Smites) - 112.695(+19)Av Damage Taken - 70.51Comments - Fairly even exchange, with a party to heal the fighter the balor is doomed.The vicious enchantment on both ends just about makes it betterto use both ends.Note the Ring of Freedom of action negates the Balors whip. Against alomost all of the baalors ablities Dwarfy is saving on 2/3/4/5. The majour worry is probably dominate which dwarfy saves on with a 5 or better.(Insert party here)With Buffy the Balor Slayer.So lets have :Greater magic weapon*2&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (20 Hours)Magic Vestments *2&nbsp; &nbsp; (20 hours)Mage armor&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (20 Hours)Barkskin&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (200 minutes)And if we are moving into a know combat:Shield of Faith&nbsp; (20 minutes)Bears Endurance&nbsp; (20 minutes)Stone Skin&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (200 minutes)Death Ward&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (20 minutes)Enlage Person&nbsp; &nbsp; (20 Minutes)Heroism&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (200 minutes)Spell Resistance (20 minutes)Haste&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (20 rounds, cast in combat)Prayer&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (20 rounds, cast in combat)Bless Weapon&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (20 Minutes)Buffy !Hp : 115+100+20&nbsp;&nbsp; = 235Fort : 14+4+10+5&nbsp;&nbsp; = +33Ref&nbsp; : 6 +3+10+5&nbsp;&nbsp; = +24Will : 6 +4+10+5&nbsp;&nbsp; = +25AcFull : 10+13+1+7+1+5+5+1-1= 42Touch: 10+4 +1&nbsp; +1+5&nbsp; +1-1= 22Attacks: +20(BAB)+9(Str)+2(GWF)+1(Ins)-2(2WF)+4(Hro)+1(Hst)-1(Sz)+1(Pry)+5(Wep)- +40+40/+35/+30/+25 - 2d6+9+5+4+6d6+1con+40/+40/+35/+30 - 2d6+4+5+4+2d6+1conAv Con damage - 6.90 Av Damage (No PA)&nbsp; - 231.96(+69)Av Damage (Opt PA) - 235.32(+69)Av Damage (Smites) - 253.56(+69)Fighting with a two handed weapon:+31/+26/+21/+16 - d8+12+1+4+6d6+1conAv Con damage - 3.45Av Damage (No PA)&nbsp; - 207 (+34.5)Av Damage (Opt PA) - 213.20(+34.5)Av Damage (Smites) - 231.69(+34.5)Av Damage Taken - 26.17 (0 After Stoneskin)CommentsBless weapon makes all crits confirm so the damage is higher than stated.Two weapon definately wins out when the off hand damage is high enough to penetrate the Dr without fail.See what scares me here:I still kill the Balor in round one, kinda kick ass huh ?I know people will gnash teeth about spells and stuff. To them I point out.1) You can still win just with the 1h/level buffs, so even if your jumped these should be up2) Its a party game, its about working together. My party is there to help me, and Im there to help my party.3) Yes I know the balor favours these weapon, it happens that a paladin would naturally pick up holy/axiomatic weapons. I will run the numbers through a neutral creature if people want.It aslo shows the power of:1) A Solid Fighter2) Casting Clerical buffs on the fighter and not the clericMajere</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Majere, post: 1715176, member: 13916"] Aside Dwarfy Mc Munchkin Race : Dwarf Fighter (12) Paladin (8) Stats B R L M E T Str 14 +5+6+1: 26 Dex 11 +6 : 17 Con 14+2 +2 : 18 Int 8 : 8 Wis 12 +6 : 18 Cha 14-2 +2 : 14 Feats 1: Weapon Focus 3: Iron Will 6: Improved Two-Weapon Fighting 9: Improved critical 12: Greater two weapon fighting 15: Lightning reflexes 18: Great fortiftude 1: Ambidexterity 2: Two weapon fighting 4: Weapon Sepcialisation 6: Improved Initiative 8: Greater weapon focus 10: Power Attack 12: Greater weapon specialisation Class abilities Aura of Good Detect evil at will Lay on hands ( 16/day) Aura of Courage (Immune Fear, those within 10' get +4 morale vs fear) Divine health (Immune to all diseases) Smite Evil (2/day, +2 to hit, +8 damage) Spells 1st : Bless Weapon 2nd : (Stuff) Equipment Adamantite Full plate (+1)[Heavy Fortification,Ghost touch] {Acid/Cold/Fire/Electrcity/Sonic Resistance [10]} - 187,650 Large Steel Shield (+1)[Animated, Ghost touch] - 36,170 Double Sword (+1)[Vicious,Holy,Axiomatic,Wounding] (CI) (+1)[Holy,Wounding,Speed] (Ada) - 262,050 Belt Of Giants strength (+6) -36000 Gloves of Dexterity (+6) -36000 Pariant of Wisdom (+6) -36000 Ring of freedom of action -40000 Cloak of resistance +5 -25000 Boots of striding/springing -5500 Manual gainful exercise (1) -27500 Silver Sheen (4) -1000 Necklace of Adaptation -9000 Ioun stones Dusty Rose -5000 Pale green -30000 Pink -8000 Pink and Green -8000 Misc Gear that isnt important to this thread -8130 Stats: Drawfy McMix Hp : 115+80 = 195 Fort : 14+4+5+5 = +28 Ref : 6 +3+5+5 = +19 Will : 6 +4+5+5 = +20 +2 vs Magic +2 vs Poison Ac Full : 10+9+1+3+1= 24 Touch: 10 +1 +1= 12 Attacks: +20(BAB)+8(Str)+2(GWF)+1(Ins)-2(2WF)- +29 +29/+24/+19/+14 - D8+8+1+4+6d6+1Con +29/+29/+24/+19 - D8+4+1+4+2d6+1con-15 Av Con damage - 3.75 Av Damage (No PA) - 86.17 (+37.5) Av Damage (Opt PA) - 86.17 (+37.5) Av Damage (Smites) - 107.77(+37.5) Fighting with a two handed weapon: +31/+26/+21/+16 - d8+12+1+4+6d6+1con Av Con damage - 19 Av Damage (No PA) - 88.825 (+19) Av Damage (Opt PA) - 88.825 (+19) Av Damage (Smites) - 112.695(+19) Av Damage Taken - 70.51 Comments - Fairly even exchange, with a party to heal the fighter the balor is doomed. The vicious enchantment on both ends just about makes it betterto use both ends. Note the Ring of Freedom of action negates the Balors whip. Against alomost all of the baalors ablities Dwarfy is saving on 2/3/4/5. The majour worry is probably dominate which dwarfy saves on with a 5 or better. (Insert party here) With Buffy the Balor Slayer. So lets have : Greater magic weapon*2 (20 Hours) Magic Vestments *2 (20 hours) Mage armor (20 Hours) Barkskin (200 minutes) And if we are moving into a know combat: Shield of Faith (20 minutes) Bears Endurance (20 minutes) Stone Skin (200 minutes) Death Ward (20 minutes) Enlage Person (20 Minutes) Heroism (200 minutes) Spell Resistance (20 minutes) Haste (20 rounds, cast in combat) Prayer (20 rounds, cast in combat) Bless Weapon (20 Minutes) Buffy ! Hp : 115+100+20 = 235 Fort : 14+4+10+5 = +33 Ref : 6 +3+10+5 = +24 Will : 6 +4+10+5 = +25 Ac Full : 10+13+1+7+1+5+5+1-1= 42 Touch: 10+4 +1 +1+5 +1-1= 22 Attacks: +20(BAB)+9(Str)+2(GWF)+1(Ins)-2(2WF)+4(Hro)+1(Hst)-1(Sz)+1(Pry)+5(Wep)- +40 +40/+35/+30/+25 - 2d6+9+5+4+6d6+1con +40/+40/+35/+30 - 2d6+4+5+4+2d6+1con Av Con damage - 6.90 Av Damage (No PA) - 231.96(+69) Av Damage (Opt PA) - 235.32(+69) Av Damage (Smites) - 253.56(+69) Fighting with a two handed weapon: +31/+26/+21/+16 - d8+12+1+4+6d6+1con Av Con damage - 3.45 Av Damage (No PA) - 207 (+34.5) Av Damage (Opt PA) - 213.20(+34.5) Av Damage (Smites) - 231.69(+34.5) Av Damage Taken - 26.17 (0 After Stoneskin) Comments Bless weapon makes all crits confirm so the damage is higher than stated. Two weapon definately wins out when the off hand damage is high enough to penetrate the Dr without fail. See what scares me here: I still kill the Balor in round one, kinda kick ass huh ? I know people will gnash teeth about spells and stuff. To them I point out. 1) You can still win just with the 1h/level buffs, so even if your jumped these should be up 2) Its a party game, its about working together. My party is there to help me, and Im there to help my party. 3) Yes I know the balor favours these weapon, it happens that a paladin would naturally pick up holy/axiomatic weapons. I will run the numbers through a neutral creature if people want. It aslo shows the power of: 1) A Solid Fighter 2) Casting Clerical buffs on the fighter and not the cleric Majere [/QUOTE]

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