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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 1717261" data-attributes="member: 3146"><p>I was looking forward to seeing a claws build. However, I think there are a few issues with this one:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not quite sure where you get this from. Is this another difference between the SRD and the actual XPsiHB? The SRD for Expansion reads:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, by my count, 7pp would buys an overpowered double expansion for 24 rounds, 9pp buys an overchanneled double expansion for 24 minutes, and 11pp buys an overchanneled double expansion for 48 minutes. That's a solid duration but it's not even close to the 8 hours for 10pp you're claiming above. 8 hours would take 110pp.</p><p></p><p>The second problem is the use of the expansion power in conjunction with the skin of Proteus for the huge form. At the end of the description, the power states that: </p><p>If you consider metamorphasis to be an effect that increases size--which it certainly appears to be in this case--then you can't stack expansion with metamorphosis.</p><p></p><p>The last problem is a potential one but it would be with the skin of Proteus itself which has a manifester level of 7. Again, according to the SRD:</p><p></p><p>I don't know what book the Gray Glutton comes from and you didn't list its HD, but the trick only works if the Gray Glutton has 7HD or less. (And if it does have that few HD, I'm mighty surprised. The huge creatures in the MM generally have a lot more than that--7HD is barely into troll or hag territory).</p><p></p><p>But that skin of Proteus--hooo boy does that look abusable. I may have to post a fighter specifically designed to abuse he heck out of it. If the Gray Glutton is a legal form, so much the better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 1717261, member: 3146"] I was looking forward to seeing a claws build. However, I think there are a few issues with this one: I'm not quite sure where you get this from. Is this another difference between the SRD and the actual XPsiHB? The SRD for Expansion reads: So, by my count, 7pp would buys an overpowered double expansion for 24 rounds, 9pp buys an overchanneled double expansion for 24 minutes, and 11pp buys an overchanneled double expansion for 48 minutes. That's a solid duration but it's not even close to the 8 hours for 10pp you're claiming above. 8 hours would take 110pp. The second problem is the use of the expansion power in conjunction with the skin of Proteus for the huge form. At the end of the description, the power states that: If you consider metamorphasis to be an effect that increases size--which it certainly appears to be in this case--then you can't stack expansion with metamorphosis. The last problem is a potential one but it would be with the skin of Proteus itself which has a manifester level of 7. Again, according to the SRD: I don't know what book the Gray Glutton comes from and you didn't list its HD, but the trick only works if the Gray Glutton has 7HD or less. (And if it does have that few HD, I'm mighty surprised. The huge creatures in the MM generally have a lot more than that--7HD is barely into troll or hag territory). But that skin of Proteus--hooo boy does that look abusable. I may have to post a fighter specifically designed to abuse he heck out of it. If the Gray Glutton is a legal form, so much the better. [/QUOTE]
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