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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 1725803" data-attributes="member: 5777">I have no idea why you keep focusing on that, even though I keep on pointing out problems and possible solutions that also differ from that greatly.Apparently you have skill points too much on the brain, I bring it up because it is important, but it is not the only thing they need by far.The same sort of things have been said over and over.Your fighter builds have had to 'crank it to 11' with a list of feats and such. Which is all well and good, that is what Complete Warrior is for after all.The psychic warrior build is also cranked, but then its spot and listen checks were insane in comparison to the fighters, he could work in pretty much any environment for as long as needed, pull out all the stops when needed, get out of hot water when times get rough, and all of this without help from any other classes. The psychic warrior does have one less attack per round during a full attack (except when under certain powers) which helps the fighter out quite a bit, but not nearly enough to be the combat warrior he is supposed to be.Sklls? yep, the fighter needs them. But he also needs a nice chunk of extra power as well.Focusing soley on one problem (the skills) is not a good way to go. I have made mention throughout that he'll need the power as well, but for flavor reasons and general use the skills are also needed. Both.</blockquote>