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<blockquote data-quote="Saracenus" data-source="post: 9880357" data-attributes="member: 47839"><p>Clint, it is pointless to argue with Greyhawk Grognards about The World of Greyhawk. Thankfully they are a tiny sub-culture of a small sub-culture of a slightly bigger small sub-culture we call D&D.</p><p></p><p>My introduction to Greyhawk was close to the start of my D&D experience (1979) with the publication of T1 The Village of Hommlet (1979) and the World of Greyhawk Folio (1980) a year later. I remember devouring articles by Gary Gygax in Dragon Magazine that expanded upon bare outline we were given. Beyond that there was no one to tell me how to run that world and I made it my own.</p><p></p><p>Then the great sundering happened in 1985 when Gary Gygax lost control of TSR. Then TSR Cease and Desisted all the burgeoning D&D fan sites into oblivion and the Greyhawk community splintered into two locations online. One was the official TSR AOL forums and the other was hush, hush secretive Greytalk mail list and IRC channel. This was the breeding ground of the idea that the Greyhawk fan community needed to defend, nay save Greyhawk from TSR.</p><p></p><p>I remained blissfully ignorant of this because I was busy playing D&D in the World of Greyhawk (and many other worlds) with my friends. Our Greyhawk as a living thing that was played.</p><p></p><p>During all this drama/trauma there was a push to codify and canonize Greyhawk that still exists today and frankly, it was and is toxic. </p><p></p><p>I was briefly caught up in this toxicity by becoming a canonista when Living Greyhawk (LG) burst upon the scene in 2000. By 2007, when LG was wrapping up there were a bunch of new Greyhawk fans to be brought into the tribe. I watched in horror as the Greyhawk Old Guard rejected them, bullied them, and silenced them.</p><p></p><p>I have since gone back to my roots and my Greyhawk is my Greyhawk, and yours is yours. I do not bother with people telling me what is and is not Greyhawk. They are just a dying, tiny group of reactionaries that amplify their voices via the internet.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Saracenus, post: 9880357, member: 47839"] Clint, it is pointless to argue with Greyhawk Grognards about The World of Greyhawk. Thankfully they are a tiny sub-culture of a small sub-culture of a slightly bigger small sub-culture we call D&D. My introduction to Greyhawk was close to the start of my D&D experience (1979) with the publication of T1 The Village of Hommlet (1979) and the World of Greyhawk Folio (1980) a year later. I remember devouring articles by Gary Gygax in Dragon Magazine that expanded upon bare outline we were given. Beyond that there was no one to tell me how to run that world and I made it my own. Then the great sundering happened in 1985 when Gary Gygax lost control of TSR. Then TSR Cease and Desisted all the burgeoning D&D fan sites into oblivion and the Greyhawk community splintered into two locations online. One was the official TSR AOL forums and the other was hush, hush secretive Greytalk mail list and IRC channel. This was the breeding ground of the idea that the Greyhawk fan community needed to defend, nay save Greyhawk from TSR. I remained blissfully ignorant of this because I was busy playing D&D in the World of Greyhawk (and many other worlds) with my friends. Our Greyhawk as a living thing that was played. During all this drama/trauma there was a push to codify and canonize Greyhawk that still exists today and frankly, it was and is toxic. I was briefly caught up in this toxicity by becoming a canonista when Living Greyhawk (LG) burst upon the scene in 2000. By 2007, when LG was wrapping up there were a bunch of new Greyhawk fans to be brought into the tribe. I watched in horror as the Greyhawk Old Guard rejected them, bullied them, and silenced them. I have since gone back to my roots and my Greyhawk is my Greyhawk, and yours is yours. I do not bother with people telling me what is and is not Greyhawk. They are just a dying, tiny group of reactionaries that amplify their voices via the internet. [/QUOTE]
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