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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kronovan" data-source="post: 9881597" data-attributes="member: 6775134">What I dislike about the DMG's Greyhawk chapter is it's anti Baklunish, or to put it more gently - Baklunish ignorant. In particular, the included WoG map ignores settlements that were added by the Living Greyawk Gazetteer's map and Anna Beyer's map. The DMG's map takes that region back to the original 1980 map's settlements, which is a surpising choice considering a number of later adventures and content, even written as early as the 80s, added Baklunish settlments. I agree that changing the Plains of Paynims is for the better - recently learned that paynim is a derogatory term/name.Baklunish deities are also missing. Admittedly there weren't many, but other than Istis the other 3 are absent. I consider that as important as missing settlements, because all of those deities (Geshtai, Xan Yae and Zuoken) were listed in the 83 Gold Box/World of Geyhawk book as commonly worshipped. So their worship figured into many other parts of the Flanaess.  As well, they're all lesser goddesses or demi-gods, which in accordance with WoG lore are those that are more likely to interfere in the affairs of mortals. There's a recent 3rd party guide to the Baklunish Basin, so maybe WotC was trying to not tread there.I'm not aware of any picture or reference in the 2024 DMG that depicts or describes Queen Yolande of Celene as black - is there? The only picture I've seen of her is in the LGG and it's black ink on white, so not possible to say. That said, she's definitely depicted as a demi-human Elf. Renaming the Scarlet Brotherhood to Shar is weird. I get the source of the idea; LGG had a brief mention that visitors from the SB to Iron League cities intro'd themselves as emmisaries from the Kingdom of Shar. Also, the LGG map added a capitol for the SB which was named Hesuel Ilshar. I don't recall any mention of Shar in the WoG Book, or other early publication. Anyhow...seems a bit silly to me - SB were a brotherhod of monks, assassins and thiefs from a specific realm, who did a lot of espioage, pirtating and warring. So I don't get the reason to hide that by renaming their realm. But maybe WotC of 2024 was setting sail with the idea that they're a sisterhood and brotherhood?I'm currently running a campaign with Advanced OSE, which is set in WoG's Baklunish Basin. So any content that can help me homebrew adventures is welcome. On the other hand I'm rarely playing, let alone running 5e these days. Were it certain that this new GH book was a system-agnositc treatment of the setting, I'd be interested. But if it's 5e oriented, I'll probably take a pass.</blockquote>

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