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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7093254" data-attributes="member: 6801845">Charmed you cannot attack the creature charming you.&nbsp; So if the target of charm is supposed to be an assassin keeping you busy for some signal, they can no longer attack.&nbsp; In addition, there is no explanation of how the charm would end.Frightened you cannot approach the creature you are frightened of.&nbsp; This can be incredibly powerful against melee opponents.&nbsp; Frighten them and then the party disengages.&nbsp; Kill target from range.&nbsp; A valor bard could easily keep someone locked down for the whole fight as long as they win the first contest since subsequent checks the target has disadvantage.I know there are also spells that can have similar effect but someone with these feats (assuming double proficiency) is far more likely to succeed.&nbsp; In addition, no spell resistance, no legendary saves.So the party rogue says something mean to the Gamma Barbarian Kluh that is supposed to be a BBEG.&nbsp; Kluh has magic resistance and legendary saves, but not a great wisdom.&nbsp; The vast majority of times he's going to lose the check (it's guaranteed once the rogue gets reliable talent).&nbsp; A frightened Kluh is a worthless sack of hit points.&nbsp; Call the fight.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 7093254, member: 6801845"] Charmed you cannot attack the creature charming you. So if the target of charm is supposed to be an assassin keeping you busy for some signal, they can no longer attack. In addition, there is no explanation of how the charm would end. Frightened you cannot approach the creature you are frightened of. This can be incredibly powerful against melee opponents. Frighten them and then the party disengages. Kill target from range. A valor bard could easily keep someone locked down for the whole fight as long as they win the first contest since subsequent checks the target has disadvantage. I know there are also spells that can have similar effect but someone with these feats (assuming double proficiency) is far more likely to succeed. In addition, no spell resistance, no legendary saves. So the party rogue says something mean to the Gamma Barbarian Kluh that is supposed to be a BBEG. Kluh has magic resistance and legendary saves, but not a great wisdom. The vast majority of times he's going to lose the check (it's guaranteed once the rogue gets reliable talent). A frightened Kluh is a worthless sack of hit points. Call the fight. [/QUOTE]

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