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<blockquote data-quote="uzagi_akimbo" data-source="post: 1431408" data-attributes="member: 15945">Some more ideasShould FR-Spells be permitted in your campaign - take &quot;Firebrand&quot; (5th level arcane; MoFaerun) - with an 'Energy Substitution' should you be able to get it in.&nbsp; 11 x 5' spreads should make flying cinders/hash out of the wyverns (who, being 4' square in size could be hit by four bursts - each hitting another square. 11d6 damage per burst (firebrand's upper limit is 15d6) - do the math. 210' should do for range. Killing/Disabling the wyverns in midflight should bother their riders, too. Brutal, yet effective.Of course, Energy Substituition becomes a &quot;must&quot; if they absorb fire damage for HP.The revised &quot;Gedlee's Elctric Loop&quot; (2nd level arcane, MoFaerun, revised in PGoF ) might help, as the &quot;stunning&quot; effect might work on the wyverns (GM-check) which could cause problems in a 'power dive' attack.&quot;Baleful Polymorph&quot; might just be another nasty surprise - as it affects undead these days (who have notoriously poor Fort Saves - and are not immune), try turning a wyvern into a flying toad/mouse/squirrel... and watch&nbsp; the stupid look on its rider's mug turn into panic.If &quot;Relics and Rituals I +II &quot; from SSS should be permissible sources for spells, try using &quot;Shocking Missile&quot; (arcane/ranger 2nd level ) on your archer's ammunition for some truly nasty hits, and &quot;Touch of the Eel&quot; (arcane/divine 3rd ) as a offensive/defensive option.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="uzagi_akimbo, post: 1431408, member: 15945"] Some more ideas Should FR-Spells be permitted in your campaign - take "Firebrand" (5th level arcane; MoFaerun) - with an 'Energy Substitution' should you be able to get it in. 11 x 5' spreads should make flying cinders/hash out of the wyverns (who, being 4' square in size could be hit by four bursts - each hitting another square. 11d6 damage per burst (firebrand's upper limit is 15d6) - do the math. 210' should do for range. Killing/Disabling the wyverns in midflight should bother their riders, too. Brutal, yet effective. Of course, Energy Substituition becomes a "must" if they absorb fire damage for HP. The revised "Gedlee's Elctric Loop" (2nd level arcane, MoFaerun, revised in PGoF ) might help, as the "stunning" effect might work on the wyverns (GM-check) which could cause problems in a 'power dive' attack. "Baleful Polymorph" might just be another nasty surprise - as it affects undead these days (who have notoriously poor Fort Saves - and are not immune), try turning a wyvern into a flying toad/mouse/squirrel... and watch the stupid look on its rider's mug turn into panic. If "Relics and Rituals I +II " from SSS should be permissible sources for spells, try using "Shocking Missile" (arcane/ranger 2nd level ) on your archer's ammunition for some truly nasty hits, and "Touch of the Eel" (arcane/divine 3rd ) as a offensive/defensive option. [/QUOTE]

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