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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 366876" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p><strong>Censoring a topic about Censorship</strong></p><p></p><p>Today Ashtal shut down a thread about censorship in the RPG industry, and I think this is a disgrace.</p><p></p><p>The claimed reason for the shut down were twofold. 1) It was a topic somehow related to another thread that had been since shut down (though the censorship thread was started prior to that shut down, was not started to go around the other shut down, and was not directly related to the other thread); and 2) "censorship issues are very political", according to an email from Ashtal.</p><p></p><p>I think the first issue is a starwman. The thread really didn't have anything to do with any other threads today. Sure, family value issues were mentioned in other threads, as was the Comics Code Authority. But this thread was strictly about that Code, and people were not referencing anything else other than that code. Perhaps Ashtal was already having a bad day with other threads, and I can understand that. But that is no reason to shut down legitimate threads.</p><p></p><p>The second issue is more important, I think. I agree with Ashtal that, if we were discussing censorship just as an off-Topic discussion, then it would be a political discussion that should be shut down. If this had been about censorship in the recording industry, I too would be asking for it to be shut down. However, that is not at all what was going on. The subject was this: Should we bring back the Comics Code Authority to the RPG industry. </p><p></p><p>That subject is VERY on-topic. What standards we should apply to the RPG industry are both on topic and important issues. </p><p></p><p>If we cannot discuss this kind of topic here, where can we discuss it? This is where the people are who would be impacted by such a change in standards. This is the place where people would want to discuss that kind of issue, where those who would want to voice their opinions on the subject are to be found. This isn't about politics in the world at large - this is about the RPG industry itself.</p><p></p><p>And it isn't like this was a subject going back and forth for hours and hours with no thought, no analysis, no resolutions, and no thought-provoking posts. This was a topic that had gone on for about an hour, with a LOT of interesting comments and analysis.</p><p></p><p>It is wrong to shut down that kind of thread. It wasn't politics. And it's shameful that the weapon of censorship was used to shut down a discussion of censorship in this industry.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 366876, member: 2525"] [b]Censoring a topic about Censorship[/b] Today Ashtal shut down a thread about censorship in the RPG industry, and I think this is a disgrace. The claimed reason for the shut down were twofold. 1) It was a topic somehow related to another thread that had been since shut down (though the censorship thread was started prior to that shut down, was not started to go around the other shut down, and was not directly related to the other thread); and 2) "censorship issues are very political", according to an email from Ashtal. I think the first issue is a starwman. The thread really didn't have anything to do with any other threads today. Sure, family value issues were mentioned in other threads, as was the Comics Code Authority. But this thread was strictly about that Code, and people were not referencing anything else other than that code. Perhaps Ashtal was already having a bad day with other threads, and I can understand that. But that is no reason to shut down legitimate threads. The second issue is more important, I think. I agree with Ashtal that, if we were discussing censorship just as an off-Topic discussion, then it would be a political discussion that should be shut down. If this had been about censorship in the recording industry, I too would be asking for it to be shut down. However, that is not at all what was going on. The subject was this: Should we bring back the Comics Code Authority to the RPG industry. That subject is VERY on-topic. What standards we should apply to the RPG industry are both on topic and important issues. If we cannot discuss this kind of topic here, where can we discuss it? This is where the people are who would be impacted by such a change in standards. This is the place where people would want to discuss that kind of issue, where those who would want to voice their opinions on the subject are to be found. This isn't about politics in the world at large - this is about the RPG industry itself. And it isn't like this was a subject going back and forth for hours and hours with no thought, no analysis, no resolutions, and no thought-provoking posts. This was a topic that had gone on for about an hour, with a LOT of interesting comments and analysis. It is wrong to shut down that kind of thread. It wasn't politics. And it's shameful that the weapon of censorship was used to shut down a discussion of censorship in this industry. [/QUOTE]
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