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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 358637" data-attributes="member: 172">It's not about what we like or don't like. I don't hate HM nor the people who play it. I like games other than d20. I even have a copy of the Hackmaster GM guide and consider it an interesting reference.It's a matter of focus. The d20 reviews site is where d20 fans come when they want d20 reviews. You compromise that focus, you are doing the fans a disservice, IMO.There are other review sites dedicated to a more general audience. The d20 reviews site just isn't it.So it is with me. But Morrus recognizes the input of the board members and will hear their opinions. That is in part why he went back to the original style of news on the front page. Those of us who find hackmaster out of place have a right to voice our opinions. I will not sit idly by and bite my tongue while I see the reviews page diluted.It's not just you. But many of us here disagree with you, me cheif among them. The name of the reviews page is "d20 reviews." Until yesterday, everything on the reviews page was something that stemmed forth from the d20 system or one of its variants... something that you could set in front of your players and they know the basic mechanisms, there is a different substrate.HM is a monumental peice of work. But it's just not on that team.This is Reductio Ad Absurdum, a composition fallacy, and creating a false dichotomy. Nothing says that we can't keep HM out of the reviews page and allow it in the forums; they are different venues with different dynamics. You assume that just because I make the case that we should not include hackmaster in the reviews, I am saying that the same argument applies to ENWorld in general. I, for one, am not making that case. We discuss many games here that are not d20 (note the recent SAS discussions, etc.)I am not arguing that we should exclude Hackmaster reviews to exclude Hackmaster fans from ENWorld in general. I am arguing that we should exclude Hackmaster reviews because it undermines the intent and integrity of the d20 reviews page itself. I see little harm in HM discussions here (in the forums), so long as it doesn't  significantly affect the S/N ratio here (in which case, it should be afforded its own forum here, much like non-D&D d20 system games had their own forum made when they became too much of a distraction.)I'm sorry you don't find value in it. Many do. That's all the more reason you should reserve statement upon how the reviews page is handled. Just because you don't care for the reviews page does not mean you should spoil it for those who do.</blockquote>

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