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Merging the Sorcerer and Wizard Classes
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<blockquote data-quote="gravyboat" data-source="post: 1328739" data-attributes="member: 13648"><p>I have always felt that the Sorcerer and Wizard classes were too similar. Both in game mechanics and the character archetypes they represent. They have the same spell list, same progressions for BAB, saving throws, skill points, etc. The only major differentiation is that one casts spontaneously and the other must prepare spells ahead of time. You may be saying, "Yah, but thats a big difference." Well, mechanically both classes fill the same role in an adventuring party.</p><p></p><p>I would really like to see the Sorcerer and Wizard class merged into a new Wizard core class. The most glaring point I dislike about wizards in their current form is that it is common that an unforseen situation arises during play in which the perfect spell could be cast but your wizard understandably didn't prepare the spell that morning. While I don't propose giving the Wizard complete spontaneous spellcasting, I would like to see him with some, although very limited, spontaneous spellcasting ability to handle the very situation as described above. I believe allowing the wizard just one or two spontaneous spellcasting slots might be sufficient (possibly bonus slots based on high charisma). Maybe only allow the wizard to use the spontaneous spell slots for spells he has mastered by the Spell Mastery Feat, or for spells of his specialty school. I would like to hear opinions on this.</p><p></p><p>In any case if the Sorcerer and Wizard classes were merged, I would propose the Sorcerer become a prestige class. The sorcerer prestige class would further develope the Wizard's very limited spontaneous spellcasting ability. The Sorcerer prestige class could even be generalized further to be added to any other spellcasting class. For instance a cleric could add levels of the sorcerer prestige class gaining additional spontaneous spellcasting benefits.</p><p></p><p>I think this proposal would also fix the uselessness of being a multiclass sorcerer/wizard in its current form.</p><p></p><p>Any thoughts or further contributions would be greatly appreciated.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gravyboat, post: 1328739, member: 13648"] I have always felt that the Sorcerer and Wizard classes were too similar. Both in game mechanics and the character archetypes they represent. They have the same spell list, same progressions for BAB, saving throws, skill points, etc. The only major differentiation is that one casts spontaneously and the other must prepare spells ahead of time. You may be saying, "Yah, but thats a big difference." Well, mechanically both classes fill the same role in an adventuring party. I would really like to see the Sorcerer and Wizard class merged into a new Wizard core class. The most glaring point I dislike about wizards in their current form is that it is common that an unforseen situation arises during play in which the perfect spell could be cast but your wizard understandably didn't prepare the spell that morning. While I don't propose giving the Wizard complete spontaneous spellcasting, I would like to see him with some, although very limited, spontaneous spellcasting ability to handle the very situation as described above. I believe allowing the wizard just one or two spontaneous spellcasting slots might be sufficient (possibly bonus slots based on high charisma). Maybe only allow the wizard to use the spontaneous spell slots for spells he has mastered by the Spell Mastery Feat, or for spells of his specialty school. I would like to hear opinions on this. In any case if the Sorcerer and Wizard classes were merged, I would propose the Sorcerer become a prestige class. The sorcerer prestige class would further develope the Wizard's very limited spontaneous spellcasting ability. The Sorcerer prestige class could even be generalized further to be added to any other spellcasting class. For instance a cleric could add levels of the sorcerer prestige class gaining additional spontaneous spellcasting benefits. I think this proposal would also fix the uselessness of being a multiclass sorcerer/wizard in its current form. Any thoughts or further contributions would be greatly appreciated. [/QUOTE]
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