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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 6311402" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>Definitely! To me "core" is not a meaningless word. My XP is mostly confined within 3ed, but there it was immediately clear whenever someone said "we play a core-only game", that they meant PHB+DMG+MM.</p><p></p><p>To be more specific, it didn't necessarily mean <em>everything</em> from those books was going to exist in the campaign, and instead <em>nothing </em>outside was ever going to exist, but still the idea was soundly understood, that character material outside those 3 books was going be at least scrutinized before being allowed, but even that was not guaranteed (i.e. the DM may not even look at it, and if you agreed on a "core-only" game then you had to accept that possibility). Saying "core-only" at least settled everybody expectations fairly clear within certain limits, even if each DM often said some 'no' to something, maybe a <em>Haste</em> spell here or a <em>pearl of power</em> there...</p><p></p><p>The news in 5ed is that "core" probably now means Basic. That is going to be quite different, and as a DM it actually feels very relaxing to me, exactly because of what [MENTION=64497]Ruzak[/MENTION] says: with the "core" being <em>really</em> small, less stress is put on the DM to include stuff into the fantasy setting. <em>Almost every</em> classing setting has humans, dwarves, elves, halflings, fighters, clerics, rogues and wizards. But already if you think half-elves, gnomes, half-orcs, warlocks, sorcerers, bards... well there's already a few more people that aren't comfortable with them (not necessarily against the idea, but maybe against a specific <em>take</em> on the idea). Only really the few most common characters are guaranteed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 6311402, member: 1465"] Definitely! To me "core" is not a meaningless word. My XP is mostly confined within 3ed, but there it was immediately clear whenever someone said "we play a core-only game", that they meant PHB+DMG+MM. To be more specific, it didn't necessarily mean [I]everything[/I] from those books was going to exist in the campaign, and instead [I]nothing [/I]outside was ever going to exist, but still the idea was soundly understood, that character material outside those 3 books was going be at least scrutinized before being allowed, but even that was not guaranteed (i.e. the DM may not even look at it, and if you agreed on a "core-only" game then you had to accept that possibility). Saying "core-only" at least settled everybody expectations fairly clear within certain limits, even if each DM often said some 'no' to something, maybe a [I]Haste[/I] spell here or a [I]pearl of power[/I] there... The news in 5ed is that "core" probably now means Basic. That is going to be quite different, and as a DM it actually feels very relaxing to me, exactly because of what [MENTION=64497]Ruzak[/MENTION] says: with the "core" being [I]really[/I] small, less stress is put on the DM to include stuff into the fantasy setting. [I]Almost every[/I] classing setting has humans, dwarves, elves, halflings, fighters, clerics, rogues and wizards. But already if you think half-elves, gnomes, half-orcs, warlocks, sorcerers, bards... well there's already a few more people that aren't comfortable with them (not necessarily against the idea, but maybe against a specific [I]take[/I] on the idea). Only really the few most common characters are guaranteed. [/QUOTE]
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