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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 6334888" data-attributes="member: 37579">It's from looking at my own games and published modules. There's a LOT more cases of rooms being barren because the encounter can carry the interest rather than the encounter being "meh" so everything else has to be unique and interesting. Modules that if you converted things to an earlier edition would be boring as dirt.I'd hardly call tournament modules the standard or benchmark of imagination. They're fun for a side game but if played as written they're lacking. It has all the story of Dungeon Delves. They need a lot more life and character to serve as a good campaign.And while I'm sure those sessions were fun to play it reads terrible. It was like chewing tinfoil. I couldn't get through both. Opposed to fun D&D stories that are actual stories. It sounds like you *really* like tactical play and that kind of game much more than story. That's fine, the last two editions had that in spades. Tactical play is cool. But it's really, really easy to use that as a crutch, to rely just on the combat encounters or the monsters to make things interesting and memorable. I tend to lump 4e and the 3e flavors equally in "rules chunky, DMing harder" category.While 3e players are pretty confident in what they can do there are enough exceptions that they don't always assume their actions are a given, but experienced players who know the rules are good at not only knowing what they can do but all the monsters. 4e players tend to just go in throwing down power cards and assuming things work. "I move here, shift here, and attack. I rolled a 15 so I hit and deal X damage." A DM in both systems will spend a lot of time asking their players "how does that work?" rather than the reverse. In a lot of ways, during the most recent editions, there was very little difference between being a DM running monsters and a player engaging in PvP. You stop being a DM and just become another player rolling dice, only competitive not cooperative. Imagination is optional, not required.Because that's my writing style, and I don't feel the need to use "I think" or "in my opinion" as a shield against criticism (which will be ignored anyway).</blockquote>

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