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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6227083" data-attributes="member: 82106">No, but note that an RBA with a light thrown weapon or a missile weapon (bow, sling, xbow) will. Some DEX classes get +DEX as a class feature.Movement is what it is. All normal rules apply. The only subtle difference is that the move part and the attack part of these things is ONE ACTION, so for instance you can step out of concealment if you were hidden and attack with SA using Deft Strike. Using a normal move action followed by a Standard attack won't get this benefit because you 'retain the advantages of being hidden until the end of the action'. Interestingly this means if you use Deft Strike to step 2 steps out of a hidden position then enemies cannot OA you because technically you're still getting the benefits of being hidden, and unseen is one of those. You cannot OA what you cannot see. So, as you can tell the interactions of the rules with 'combined' powers are a bit subtle but consistent.64. concealment only applies to targets of melee or ranged attacks. what attacks does it not apply to?much gratitude for all responses.</blockquote>Both Close (burst and blast) and Area attacks (of any sort) are not affected by concealment. Note again some subtleties. Many powers are of the 'one target in a close blast N' variety. These don't suffer a penalty against concealed targets, though COVER will grant a bonus! Often the varieties are things like &quot;one target which the attacker can see&quot; Close blast N. That will exclude people in total darkness or other total concealment, or who are unseen (hidden, invisible). MANY other powers of this type don't roll attacks, they are things like Healing Word that target allies. Especially the early ones often don't mention a 'must see' requirement, which can now and then seem odd. you're welcome.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 6227083, member: 82106"] No, but note that an RBA with a light thrown weapon or a missile weapon (bow, sling, xbow) will. Some DEX classes get +DEX as a class feature. Movement is what it is. All normal rules apply. The only subtle difference is that the move part and the attack part of these things is ONE ACTION, so for instance you can step out of concealment if you were hidden and attack with SA using Deft Strike. Using a normal move action followed by a Standard attack won't get this benefit because you 'retain the advantages of being hidden until the end of the action'. Interestingly this means if you use Deft Strike to step 2 steps out of a hidden position then enemies cannot OA you because technically you're still getting the benefits of being hidden, and unseen is one of those. You cannot OA what you cannot see. So, as you can tell the interactions of the rules with 'combined' powers are a bit subtle but consistent. 64. concealment only applies to targets of melee or ranged attacks. what attacks does it not apply to? much gratitude for all responses.[/QUOTE] Both Close (burst and blast) and Area attacks (of any sort) are not affected by concealment. Note again some subtleties. Many powers are of the 'one target in a close blast N' variety. These don't suffer a penalty against concealed targets, though COVER will grant a bonus! Often the varieties are things like "one target which the attacker can see" Close blast N. That will exclude people in total darkness or other total concealment, or who are unseen (hidden, invisible). MANY other powers of this type don't roll attacks, they are things like Healing Word that target allies. Especially the early ones often don't mention a 'must see' requirement, which can now and then seem odd. you're welcome. [/QUOTE]

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