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<blockquote data-quote="Zombie-a-GoGo" data-source="post: 1270061" data-attributes="member: 15749">My complaint with meta stems from that master of meta, the WoD.We had a pretty decent VtM anarch game going, what with us traveling up and down the east coast, forging alliances with different anarch cells and trying to put together a large-scale revolution. Our cell was based in NYC, which was Sabbat-controlled, and this was an intentional decision on the characters' parts because the Camarilla wanted to destroy us - we were rapidly becoming quite a nasty thorn in their side for trying to get the anarchs to work together/ <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Then one day, our ST tells us &quot;oh, by the way, NYC is now back under Camarilla control.&quot;What???Now, I didn't mind that the Camarilla was trying to retake NYC, but our group was given absolutely no way to try and influence the war for the city. Perhaps in the chaos we could have forged a compact between the Camarilla and the anarchs in exchange for our help in driving out the Sabbat. Probably not, but I would have liked to have tried. But, no. The metaplot was going to occur, it was going to occur as was described by White Wolf, and nothing that we the players could do had the slightest chance of changing it.That was pretty much the beginning of the end of my VtM days, btw.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zombie-a-GoGo, post: 1270061, member: 15749"] My complaint with meta stems from that master of meta, the WoD. We had a pretty decent VtM anarch game going, what with us traveling up and down the east coast, forging alliances with different anarch cells and trying to put together a large-scale revolution. Our cell was based in NYC, which was Sabbat-controlled, and this was an intentional decision on the characters' parts because the Camarilla wanted to destroy us - we were rapidly becoming quite a nasty thorn in their side for trying to get the anarchs to work [i]together[/i]/ :) Then one day, our ST tells us "oh, by the way, NYC is now back under Camarilla control." What??? Now, I didn't mind that the Camarilla was trying to retake NYC, but our group was given absolutely [i]no[/i] way to try and influence the war for the city. Perhaps in the chaos we could have forged a compact between the Camarilla and the anarchs in exchange for our help in driving out the Sabbat. Probably not, but I would have liked to have [i]tried.[/i] But, no. The metaplot was going to occur, it was going to occur as was described by White Wolf, and nothing that we the players could do had the slightest chance of changing it. That was pretty much the beginning of the end of my VtM days, btw. [/QUOTE]

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