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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 4003076" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>I disagree with you here, though I will readily admit it's probably a preference thing. Let's take your example... Ogres of Hilltop are brutal and savage... These are two of the definitions I found on an online dictionary. </p><p></p><p>Brutal: Harsh; unrelenting</p><p>Savage:Ferocious; fierce:</p><p></p><p>These words could describe a highly regimented (lawful civilization) just as easily as a wild and unstructured social group (chaotic). These words could also describe a benevolent (good) empire or a tyrannical (evil) empire. What alignment does for me is put this description into context. So no I don't believe alignment alone is enough. However, I feel it, with the description, is a good tool.</p><p></p><p>If these Ogres are CE, it means they will be brutal in an unorganized and sometimes haphazard way even when logic says they should run, work together or surrender. They are Fierce but without advanced strategy or tactics to best utilize that fierceness. The Evl descriptor tells me they have little if any morality to govern their brutality and fierceness, and will probably turn it on anyone they percieve as weaker than them or a threat. And the alignment descriptor does this succinctly and quickly.</p><p></p><p>I just don't get how a special abilitiy tells me more about a creatures society or habits. A giant can throw rocks so his society must be...??? As far as the descriptors you suggested, they're great for important and individualized NPC's...but don't really make since when trying to give a framework for a species culture but leave it broad enough for the DM to dress it up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 4003076, member: 48965"] I disagree with you here, though I will readily admit it's probably a preference thing. Let's take your example... Ogres of Hilltop are brutal and savage... These are two of the definitions I found on an online dictionary. Brutal: Harsh; unrelenting Savage:Ferocious; fierce: These words could describe a highly regimented (lawful civilization) just as easily as a wild and unstructured social group (chaotic). These words could also describe a benevolent (good) empire or a tyrannical (evil) empire. What alignment does for me is put this description into context. So no I don't believe alignment alone is enough. However, I feel it, with the description, is a good tool. If these Ogres are CE, it means they will be brutal in an unorganized and sometimes haphazard way even when logic says they should run, work together or surrender. They are Fierce but without advanced strategy or tactics to best utilize that fierceness. The Evl descriptor tells me they have little if any morality to govern their brutality and fierceness, and will probably turn it on anyone they percieve as weaker than them or a threat. And the alignment descriptor does this succinctly and quickly. I just don't get how a special abilitiy tells me more about a creatures society or habits. A giant can throw rocks so his society must be...??? As far as the descriptors you suggested, they're great for important and individualized NPC's...but don't really make since when trying to give a framework for a species culture but leave it broad enough for the DM to dress it up. [/QUOTE]
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