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<blockquote data-quote="Tripgnosis" data-source="post: 4484677" data-attributes="member: 27760">True, it's not metagaming cuz it's it IN the rules. What I'm saying is that this rule is to PREVENT metagaming, which I think is unnecessary...This is why I don't wanna houserule it. Or anything. It throws off the balance. But I don't think this reasoning supports the rule. It does the opposit IMO. Even thoguh certain powers, by nature should be a surprise (like the two I mentioned) they are not because of that rule. And changing it throws the balance off which is why I wish it weren't the rule in the first place...This is a minor gripe, and one of a very few that I have with 4e. But it's one of the things that make it feel more like a video game and less like an immersive roleplaying experience. Characters in the game are aware of the mechanics, which IMO is outside the context of the game-world. Why should a zombie be aware of much of anything let alone how a clerics power works. I mean zombies are supposed to be mindless, not tactical thinkers. And I could understand a seasoned fighter successfully making an insight check to notice that a peculiarity of your stance suggests that your waiting for him to attack so you can riposte, but I can't see how within the context of the game every creature knows if and when you're gonna get that riposte. I'm not saying no creature should ever be aware of these things, I just hate that all of them are always aware of all of these things.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tripgnosis, post: 4484677, member: 27760"] True, it's not metagaming cuz it's it IN the rules. What I'm saying is that this rule is to PREVENT metagaming, which I think is unnecessary... This is why I don't wanna houserule it. Or anything. It throws off the balance. But I don't think this reasoning supports the rule. It does the opposit IMO. Even thoguh certain powers, by nature should be a surprise (like the two I mentioned) they are not because of that rule. And changing it throws the balance off which is why I wish it weren't the rule in the first place... This is a minor gripe, and one of a very few that I have with 4e. But it's one of the things that make it feel more like a video game and less like an immersive roleplaying experience. Characters in the game are aware of the [I]mechanics[/I], which IMO is outside the context of the game-world. Why should a zombie be aware of much of anything let alone how a clerics power works. I mean zombies are supposed to be mindless, not tactical thinkers. And I could understand a seasoned fighter successfully making an insight check to notice that a peculiarity of your stance suggests that your waiting for him to attack so you can riposte, but I can't see how [I]within the context of the game[/I] every creature knows if and when you're gonna get that riposte. I'm not saying no creature should ever be aware of these things, I just hate that [I]all of them[/I] are [I]always[/I] aware of [I]all[/I] of these things. [/QUOTE]

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