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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nyaricus" data-source="post: 3498268" data-attributes="member: 35678">I completely disagree on this. While I fully accept that many hard rock bands flirted with metal in many of their songs, and thus there is some crossover between the two genres (GNR, ACDC, etc etc [I don't really listen to these bands anyways]), grunge is is sub-genre of rock and =/= metal whatsoever. Hell, Nirvana and the grunge scene is what castrated the metal scene in North America in the 90s, till much later on in the decade when 'Nu Metal' became popular. Metal never died out in Europe in the 90s, and many metal acts are extremely popular over there, by which I mean mainstream (Nightwish, Lordi etc... not very well versed in the specific acts which have risen to popularity in Europe).Only now in N.A. are we really seeing the metal truely regain it's foothold, what with last years release of Lamb of Gods' Sacrament reach number 8 on he Billboard top 100 in the first week, for example. In my city, I'm seeing more and more major metal acts coming through, more local metal bands forming, more great metal CDs coming out by heavy-hitting bands, etc.But, as for grunge, it's definitly not metal. Not even close.cheers,--N</blockquote>