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<blockquote data-quote="pukunui" data-source="post: 4121564" data-attributes="member: 54629"><p>Hi all,</p><p></p><p>I'm just wondering if anyone can <em>confirm</em> whether or not the metallic dragons are going to appear in the first MM. The reason I ask is because we appear to have two contradictory statements about it:</p><p></p><p>On the one hand, we have <strong>Massawyrm</strong> saying "There are no metallics in the MM".</p><p></p><p>But, on the other hand, we have WotC saying "Every mini from the Desert of Desolation set [which includes a copper dragon] <em>will</em> be in the first 4e MM".</p><p></p><p>Which statement is correct?</p><p></p><p>If <strong>Massawyrm</strong> is right, then WotC is either lying or just isn't paying attention. If WotC is right, then Massawyrm is wrong and there is at least one metallic dragon (the copper) in the first 4e MM.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Here's my theory:</p><p>[sblock]1) WotC initially was going to have five chromatic dragons and five metallic dragons, including the new iron and adamantine dragons, in the first 4e MM. Without directly saying so, they seem to suggest this in their <em>Worlds & Monsters</em> preview book.</p><p>2) At some stage they find they need to cut some monsters out of the MM, so they choose the metallic dragons. This version of the MM is what gets sent to playtesters like <strong>Massawyrm</strong>. This also leads them to state that "every DoD mini except one [the copper dragon] will be in the first 4e MM".</p><p>3) However, later on WotC then finds that they <em>can</em> put at least one metallic, if not some or all of them, back in the first 4e MM. This leads them to revise their statement about the DoD minis set to "every mini will be in the MM".</p><p>4) Unfortunately, they do not send playtesters like <strong>Massawyrm</strong> an updated MM, so when the NDA is lifted, Massawyrm (perhaps not realizing he is now using an "outdated" version of the 4e MM) makes his statement about there being no metallics in the MM.[/sblock]</p><p></p><p>Thoughts?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Thanks in advance.</p><p></p><p>Cheers,</p><p>Jonathan</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pukunui, post: 4121564, member: 54629"] Hi all, I'm just wondering if anyone can [i]confirm[/i] whether or not the metallic dragons are going to appear in the first MM. The reason I ask is because we appear to have two contradictory statements about it: On the one hand, we have [b]Massawyrm[/b] saying "There are no metallics in the MM". But, on the other hand, we have WotC saying "Every mini from the Desert of Desolation set [which includes a copper dragon] [i]will[/i] be in the first 4e MM". Which statement is correct? If [b]Massawyrm[/b] is right, then WotC is either lying or just isn't paying attention. If WotC is right, then Massawyrm is wrong and there is at least one metallic dragon (the copper) in the first 4e MM. Here's my theory: [sblock]1) WotC initially was going to have five chromatic dragons and five metallic dragons, including the new iron and adamantine dragons, in the first 4e MM. Without directly saying so, they seem to suggest this in their [i]Worlds & Monsters[/i] preview book. 2) At some stage they find they need to cut some monsters out of the MM, so they choose the metallic dragons. This version of the MM is what gets sent to playtesters like [b]Massawyrm[/b]. This also leads them to state that "every DoD mini except one [the copper dragon] will be in the first 4e MM". 3) However, later on WotC then finds that they [i]can[/i] put at least one metallic, if not some or all of them, back in the first 4e MM. This leads them to revise their statement about the DoD minis set to "every mini will be in the MM". 4) Unfortunately, they do not send playtesters like [b]Massawyrm[/b] an updated MM, so when the NDA is lifted, Massawyrm (perhaps not realizing he is now using an "outdated" version of the 4e MM) makes his statement about there being no metallics in the MM.[/sblock] Thoughts? Thanks in advance. Cheers, Jonathan [/QUOTE]
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