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<blockquote data-quote="77IM" data-source="post: 4803307" data-attributes="member: 12377">There are two arguments going on at once here.&nbsp; Just to clarify,1.&nbsp; There's the question of whether the MM should include monsters of good alignment at all.2.&nbsp; There's the question of whether metallic dragons in particular should be good and have matching flavor text.Personally, I think that:1.&nbsp; In 4e, individuals of a species can be any alignment.&nbsp; A good individual of an evil species is a really interesting hero:&nbsp; an outcast drow, a vampire that kills other vampires, or a demon struggling against his own infernal nature (IMHO the fact that tieflings are now unaligned makes them slightly less interesting as characters).&nbsp; Likewise, an evil individual of a good species often makes a great villain.&nbsp; For that to work, though, there need to be some good species!2.&nbsp; I remember reading the monster entries in my Red Box Basic Set when I was 10 and noticing the unusual progression of dragon alignments, and the idea that gold dragons were good has stuck with me.&nbsp; Yet I don't care about most of the other monster changes in 4e.&nbsp; Why is that?&nbsp; Is it just me?&nbsp; It makes me think that they missed the mark on this one -- that there is something about good dragons that people really like.&nbsp;-- 77IM</blockquote>

[QUOTE="77IM, post: 4803307, member: 12377"] There are two arguments going on at once here. Just to clarify, 1. There's the question of whether the MM should include monsters of good alignment at all. 2. There's the question of whether metallic dragons in particular should be good and have matching flavor text. Personally, I think that: 1. In 4e, individuals of a species can be any alignment. A good individual of an evil species is a really interesting hero: an outcast drow, a vampire that kills other vampires, or a demon struggling against his own infernal nature (IMHO the fact that tieflings are now unaligned makes them slightly less interesting as characters). Likewise, an evil individual of a good species often makes a great villain. For that to work, though, there need to be some good species! 2. I remember reading the monster entries in my Red Box Basic Set when I was 10 and noticing the unusual progression of dragon alignments, and the idea that gold dragons were good has stuck with me. Yet I don't care about most of the other monster changes in 4e. Why is that? Is it just me? It makes me think that they missed the mark on this one -- that there is something about good dragons that people really like. -- 77IM [/QUOTE]

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