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<blockquote data-quote="Brainwatch" data-source="post: 6050044" data-attributes="member: 6683885"><p>Not sure if i like the idea of expertise dice for mages. I think it might change the feel of the game too much. That being said how would something like that look/work? I see three basic questions that would need to be answered:</p><p></p><p>1: What changes to current spells/magic would need to be made.</p><p>2: How many dice and how often they refresh.</p><p>3: What can you actually do with the dice.</p><p></p><p>So after a few minutes of thought here are some ideas.</p><p></p><p></p><p>1a: Spell damage no longer increases with character level. We'll use the dice to augment the damage below. this might not work for all spells but running with it for now.</p><p></p><p>1b: Remove magic missile as a spell. We'll add it back below as a power using the dice.</p><p></p><p>2a: Since Mages always seemed to be more about recourse management, and to differentiate these dice from the fighters, I think the dice should refresh only after a short rest. </p><p></p><p>2b: So how many? with the fact that I'm only handing them a few dice for the entire combat, and they are manly use to augment spells I'm thinking of limiting the number of dice to the Mages level plus ability bonus. This gives the Mage a nice sized pool at ow levels without being overwheming at higher levels.</p><p></p><p>2c: I'm thinking of leaving the dice as d4 for now. but leaning towards letting them increase to d6 at higher level, say around 10.</p><p></p><p></p><p>3: So what can we do with these dice:</p><p></p><p>a: <u>Augment Damage:</u> a Mage can spend a number of dice up to the number equal to the highest level spell they can cast and add those dice to the damage done to for the spell. Example, a 5th level Mage spends 3 dice to augment the damage on his Fireball spell. The Mage then rolls 5d6 plus the 3d4 for the total damage.</p><p></p><p>b: <u>Magic Missile</u>: The Mage can spend a number of dice up to the number equal to the highest level spell they can cast. Each die represents one missile and will strike a target unerringly. The Missiles need not be all cast at the same target.</p><p></p><p>c: <u>Silent Spell:</u> The Mage spends one Die and removes the Verbal component from a spell as it is cast.</p><p></p><p>d: <u>Still Spell:</u> the Mage spends one die and removes the Somatic component from a spell as it is cast</p><p></p><p>e: <u>Replenish Dice:</u> a Mage rolls any number of their remaining dice and adds the total to his current dice pool. Regardless of the result the Mage may not have more dice than their maximum. </p><p></p><p>Some other effects that I'm not sure what they should cost at the moment:</p><p><u>Change Energy Type:</u> Spend dice change fireball into Ice Ball</p><p><u>Expand Effect:</u> Spend dice effect more area, Line spells might be cheaper than spheres</p><p><u>Expand Duration</u>: Spend dice, your effect last longer.</p><p><u>Increased Resistance:</u> Spend dice, it's harder to save against the spell.</p><p><u>Increase Dice Size:</u> Spend Dice bump up damage dice to next size.</p><p></p><p>Again just some quick thought off the top of my head. Some of this still needs some tweaking.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brainwatch, post: 6050044, member: 6683885"] Not sure if i like the idea of expertise dice for mages. I think it might change the feel of the game too much. That being said how would something like that look/work? I see three basic questions that would need to be answered: 1: What changes to current spells/magic would need to be made. 2: How many dice and how often they refresh. 3: What can you actually do with the dice. So after a few minutes of thought here are some ideas. 1a: Spell damage no longer increases with character level. We'll use the dice to augment the damage below. this might not work for all spells but running with it for now. 1b: Remove magic missile as a spell. We'll add it back below as a power using the dice. 2a: Since Mages always seemed to be more about recourse management, and to differentiate these dice from the fighters, I think the dice should refresh only after a short rest. 2b: So how many? with the fact that I'm only handing them a few dice for the entire combat, and they are manly use to augment spells I'm thinking of limiting the number of dice to the Mages level plus ability bonus. This gives the Mage a nice sized pool at ow levels without being overwheming at higher levels. 2c: I'm thinking of leaving the dice as d4 for now. but leaning towards letting them increase to d6 at higher level, say around 10. 3: So what can we do with these dice: a: [U]Augment Damage:[/U] a Mage can spend a number of dice up to the number equal to the highest level spell they can cast and add those dice to the damage done to for the spell. Example, a 5th level Mage spends 3 dice to augment the damage on his Fireball spell. The Mage then rolls 5d6 plus the 3d4 for the total damage. b: [U]Magic Missile[/U]: The Mage can spend a number of dice up to the number equal to the highest level spell they can cast. Each die represents one missile and will strike a target unerringly. The Missiles need not be all cast at the same target. c: [U]Silent Spell:[/U] The Mage spends one Die and removes the Verbal component from a spell as it is cast. d: [U]Still Spell:[/U] the Mage spends one die and removes the Somatic component from a spell as it is cast e: [U]Replenish Dice:[/U] a Mage rolls any number of their remaining dice and adds the total to his current dice pool. Regardless of the result the Mage may not have more dice than their maximum. Some other effects that I'm not sure what they should cost at the moment: [U]Change Energy Type:[/U] Spend dice change fireball into Ice Ball [U]Expand Effect:[/U] Spend dice effect more area, Line spells might be cheaper than spheres [U]Expand Duration[/U]: Spend dice, your effect last longer. [U]Increased Resistance:[/U] Spend dice, it's harder to save against the spell. [U]Increase Dice Size:[/U] Spend Dice bump up damage dice to next size. Again just some quick thought off the top of my head. Some of this still needs some tweaking. [/QUOTE]
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