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<blockquote data-quote="Pergentile" data-source="post: 5496219" data-attributes="member: 6671368"><p>If you apply a meta-magic feat to a spell, but pay some other cost for the meta-magic feat, then the spell and the spell slot it takes up stay the same.</p><p>NORMALLY the spell level stays the same for determining factors that rely on the level of the spell, but the spell takes up a slot three levels higher. So you would memorize it at the beginning of the day in a 6th level spell slot, but it would still be considered a third level spell.</p><p>So if you have some way of paying for Intensify Spell (Maximize, then double all numeric effects), you would memorize a spell in its normal spell slot instead of a slot 7 levels higher, but would still get the effect.</p><p>An example would be, you cast disintegrate (level 6 spell) as a level 11 Wiard, and apply Intensify Spell metamagic feat by paying for it with some special ability or feature, so you can have it in a level 6 spell slot instead of a level 13 spell slot, and it deals damage equal to 2(6(11*2))=264 damage. Seems a bit overboard for a level 11 right? Wrong, because just think about what you are paying for that meta-magic feat to keep the spell slot the same. 10 Constitution damage (would kills most casters)? 20 Turn undead attempts (most classes don't get this many max turn attempts)?</p><p></p><p>There are several ways of applying meta-magic feats without increasing the spell slot, my favorite is Eldritch Corruption, which lets you apply any of four meta-magic feats by having an ally take 2 constitution damage each.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pergentile, post: 5496219, member: 6671368"] If you apply a meta-magic feat to a spell, but pay some other cost for the meta-magic feat, then the spell and the spell slot it takes up stay the same. NORMALLY the spell level stays the same for determining factors that rely on the level of the spell, but the spell takes up a slot three levels higher. So you would memorize it at the beginning of the day in a 6th level spell slot, but it would still be considered a third level spell. So if you have some way of paying for Intensify Spell (Maximize, then double all numeric effects), you would memorize a spell in its normal spell slot instead of a slot 7 levels higher, but would still get the effect. An example would be, you cast disintegrate (level 6 spell) as a level 11 Wiard, and apply Intensify Spell metamagic feat by paying for it with some special ability or feature, so you can have it in a level 6 spell slot instead of a level 13 spell slot, and it deals damage equal to 2(6(11*2))=264 damage. Seems a bit overboard for a level 11 right? Wrong, because just think about what you are paying for that meta-magic feat to keep the spell slot the same. 10 Constitution damage (would kills most casters)? 20 Turn undead attempts (most classes don't get this many max turn attempts)? There are several ways of applying meta-magic feats without increasing the spell slot, my favorite is Eldritch Corruption, which lets you apply any of four meta-magic feats by having an ally take 2 constitution damage each. [/QUOTE]
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