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<blockquote data-quote="Wik" data-source="post: 5319039" data-attributes="member: 40177">If you look at Silverblade's thread on 2e's massive releasing of books, there are a few people who imply that metaplot was one of those awful things that called TSR, that TSR was the king of metaplots, etc.&nbsp; And, while that may be true (I disagree, but whatever), the fact is that other companies did metaplots - and they worked. Shadowrun is the best example I can personally think of, having no experience with White Wolf.&nbsp; And I, for one, would never run a Shadowrun game because there's just too much going on for me to feel comfortable with it.Battletech is an interesting case.&nbsp; Before the clan invasion, it could be played with the assumption of relative points cost (related to tonnage) and each side had access to the same mechs (more or less).&nbsp; The game was a combat sim, plain and simple.&nbsp; The clan invasion messed that up, as the clan mechs were, in all ways, better (I think the inner sphere had one or two things that the clans never figured out).&nbsp; Which sort of messed things up.Really, two people could play in Battletech campaigns, one in pre-clan, and the other post, and they would be experiencing two entirely different games, with different mechs dominating the battlefield, different strategies for winning, and different styles of scenario.Really good point.&nbsp; SFB is a fun game, but damn is it complex.&nbsp; ***Personally, as far as all this goes, I'm not a huge fan of metaplots, simply because I always feel cheated out of a product when it starts referencing stuff from another product that I don't own.&nbsp; And I hate it when there's so much information out there about the world, and it's constantly updating, because it makes me feel like if I want to have my own little niche in the game, I need to play in the fringes:&nbsp; I don't want to set my Shadowrun game in Seattle, because there's always some new event going on with the corporations that my players will act upon that I'm not aware about, so I'm going to set my campaign in, um.... Winnipeg!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wik, post: 5319039, member: 40177"] If you look at Silverblade's thread on 2e's massive releasing of books, there are a few people who imply that metaplot was one of those awful things that called TSR, that TSR was the king of metaplots, etc. And, while that may be true (I disagree, but whatever), the fact is that other companies did metaplots - and they worked. Shadowrun is the best example I can personally think of, having no experience with White Wolf. And I, for one, would never run a Shadowrun game because there's just too much going on for me to feel comfortable with it. Battletech is an interesting case. Before the clan invasion, it could be played with the assumption of relative points cost (related to tonnage) and each side had access to the same mechs (more or less). The game was a combat sim, plain and simple. The clan invasion messed that up, as the clan mechs were, in all ways, better (I think the inner sphere had one or two things that the clans never figured out). Which sort of messed things up. Really, two people could play in Battletech campaigns, one in pre-clan, and the other post, and they would be experiencing two entirely different games, with different mechs dominating the battlefield, different strategies for winning, and different styles of scenario. Really good point. SFB is a fun game, but damn is it complex. *** Personally, as far as all this goes, I'm not a huge fan of metaplots, simply because I always feel cheated out of a product when it starts referencing stuff from another product that I don't own. And I hate it when there's so much information out there about the world, and it's constantly updating, because it makes me feel like if I want to have my own little niche in the game, I need to play in the fringes: I don't want to set my Shadowrun game in Seattle, because there's always some new event going on with the corporations that my players will act upon that I'm not aware about, so I'm going to set my campaign in, um.... Winnipeg! [/QUOTE]

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