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<blockquote data-quote="jezter6" data-source="post: 3286187" data-attributes="member: 6567">Definately some good logic there. Maybe instead of rolling init, the surprising side auto-gets initiative for the first round (or at least a healthy bonus to init to give them a better shot at going twice). If you don't get to go twice in a row, it's really not surprise at all, unless you use special rules that you lose DEX to AC during surprise rounds. Otherwise, it's just a regular round where they go first, then the other party goes - in your head you think that it's round 2, when it's still the back half of round 1. In all reality, after the first round, if you use a system where it's just you go, we go, then it doesn't really matter who went 'first' as rounds will tend to just blur together. The whole concept of rounds (IMHO) is just way to mentally compute a logical order to what is in reality an illogical nightmare of swinging, parrying, and fireball blasting. Heck, I find going last to be more interesting.Plus, say you get +2 AC until your next action...would you WANT to win init and go first and lose your bonus while the enemy beats on you, or let all the guys attack you while your bonus is good THEN go last and lose your bonus when you're done? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="jezter6, post: 3286187, member: 6567"] Definately some good logic there. Maybe instead of rolling init, the surprising side auto-gets initiative for the first round (or at least a healthy bonus to init to give them a better shot at going twice). If you don't get to go twice in a row, it's really not surprise at all, unless you use special rules that you lose DEX to AC during surprise rounds. Otherwise, it's just a regular round where they go first, then the other party goes - in your head you think that it's round 2, when it's still the back half of round 1. In all reality, after the first round, if you use a system where it's just you go, we go, then it doesn't really matter who went 'first' as rounds will tend to just blur together. The whole concept of rounds (IMHO) is just way to mentally compute a logical order to what is in reality an illogical nightmare of swinging, parrying, and fireball blasting. Heck, I find going last to be more interesting. Plus, say you get +2 AC until your next action...would you WANT to win init and go first and lose your bonus while the enemy beats on you, or let all the guys attack you while your bonus is good THEN go last and lose your bonus when you're done? :) [/QUOTE]

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