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<blockquote data-quote="jezter6" data-source="post: 3293898" data-attributes="member: 6567">Not sure if m20 is fully done, but I'd really like to chime in here.Everyone gets a basic BAB of +1/lvl, fighters get that +5. AC does not scale, and because there are no special abilities to evade damage or boost AC outside of straight dex + armor, we have a problem.Not to mention, with everyone getting d6 HP, the fighter really is getting hosed. Not only do all the other classes get full BAB/level, he can't take half the hits he normally could because he's got just over half his expected HP. A 20th level char with an AC of only 17-20 with barely 80 HP is not going to last long against anyone, let alone a challenge of the same levels. You cannot put a CR 20 encounter against 4 lvl 20 guys...they will die a horrible, HORRIBLE death because damage from weapons/sources/spells are unchanged, yet the PCs have less HP than they should.Maybe it works in the 1-5 lvl range, but I can see where power creep comes in that EVERYONE hits, EVERY attack, EVERY round - but since everyone hits, and HP is low, nobody lasts more than 1 round ever.At first I really liked the idea, as I was trying to rules-lite d20 myself...but this I'm not sure I'm able to handle. I'd love to not have to go back and create yet another lite20 clone, but I've yet to see a system handle everything.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jezter6, post: 3293898, member: 6567"] Not sure if m20 is fully done, but I'd really like to chime in here. Everyone gets a basic BAB of +1/lvl, fighters get that +5. AC does not scale, and because there are no special abilities to evade damage or boost AC outside of straight dex + armor, we have a problem. Not to mention, with everyone getting d6 HP, the fighter really is getting hosed. Not only do all the other classes get full BAB/level, he can't take half the hits he normally could because he's got just over half his expected HP. A 20th level char with an AC of only 17-20 with barely 80 HP is not going to last long against anyone, let alone a challenge of the same levels. You cannot put a CR 20 encounter against 4 lvl 20 guys...they will die a horrible, HORRIBLE death because damage from weapons/sources/spells are unchanged, yet the PCs have less HP than they should. Maybe it works in the 1-5 lvl range, but I can see where power creep comes in that EVERYONE hits, EVERY attack, EVERY round - but since everyone hits, and HP is low, nobody lasts more than 1 round ever. At first I really liked the idea, as I was trying to rules-lite d20 myself...but this I'm not sure I'm able to handle. I'd love to not have to go back and create yet another lite20 clone, but I've yet to see a system handle everything. [/QUOTE]

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