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<blockquote data-quote="Magidex" data-source="post: 5217414" data-attributes="member: 91494">I don't understand Brutal Rogues. It takes 14 Str to be ANY good, and every point you invest in Str means a lower Con all around. If you take backstabber at lvl 1 and you're NOT human...piercing strike is (With light blade/short sword) +7 vs Ref, and you deal...1d6 (+2d8 + 2 with combat advantage) + 4 (dex)5-10 w/o CA9-28 w/ CAActually... I never sat down and did the math before. Crap. Oh well, Artful Dodger could have you gaining +7 AC against OAs if you're halfling, go with 18 dex and 16 cha, and take defensive mobility.(On that note: Player-vs.-character knowledge that moving away on purpose will cause them to miss their OA 90% of the time, therefore granting you CA??)This feat from MP2 should shape that decision:Opportunity Knocks (HEROIC!? FULLY obsoletes the epic feat that does only half what this does in MP1)Prerequisite: RogueBenefit: Whenever you hit with an OA, or are missed by an OA, you gain combat advantage against the enemy (you hit/that missed you) until the end of your next turn.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Magidex, post: 5217414, member: 91494"] I don't understand Brutal Rogues. It takes 14 Str to be ANY good, and every point you invest in Str means a lower Con all around. If you take backstabber at lvl 1 and you're NOT human... piercing strike is (With light blade/short sword) +7 vs Ref, and you deal... 1d6 (+2d8 + 2 with combat advantage) + 4 (dex) 5-10 w/o CA 9-28 w/ CA Actually... I never sat down and did the math before. Crap. Oh well, Artful Dodger could have you gaining +7 AC against OAs if you're halfling, go with 18 dex and 16 cha, and take defensive mobility. (On that note: Player-vs.-character knowledge that moving away [I]on purpose[/I] will cause them to miss their OA 90% of the time, therefore granting you CA??) This feat from MP2 should shape that decision: [B]Opportunity Knocks [/B][I](HEROIC!? FULLY obsoletes the [B]epic feat[/B] that does only half what this does in MP1)[/I] Prerequisite: Rogue Benefit: Whenever you hit with an OA, or are missed by an OA, you gain combat advantage against the enemy (you hit/that missed you) until the end of your next turn. [/QUOTE]

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