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<blockquote data-quote="Kahuna Burger" data-source="post: 1145256" data-attributes="member: 8439"><p>This is a part that hasn't made much sense to me... Spike remembers his life as william, right down to the emotional impact of things that happened when he was "human". There is not some possessing force inside of him, its william with a bad attitude and thirst for blood... So he gets his "soul" back, and he's suddenly a different person... except he's not. He came back to sunnydale, where "william" has never been, and interacts with the people who "Spike" knew, with the same basic relationships but more angst. (this is my capsule impression, I haven't seen a lot of the last season). I just don't see any evidence for the "person in there" being gone. </p><p></p><p>Also, saying that he was just "pretending to be better" or trying to get into buffy's pant or whatever, doesn't work during the time Buffy's dead. He has no idea she's ever coming back, but he's there protecting Dawn, trying to live up to the last promise he made to Buffy. And he's disgusted by the buffy bot and doesn't want an image of buffy lusting after him anymore. </p><p></p><p>I dunno, a lot of what I'm reading in defense of the no soul = thing outlook seems to be begging the question. You can't defend an assumption with the assumption. Show me where its demonstrated...</p><p></p><p>Kahuna Burger</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kahuna Burger, post: 1145256, member: 8439"] This is a part that hasn't made much sense to me... Spike remembers his life as william, right down to the emotional impact of things that happened when he was "human". There is not some possessing force inside of him, its william with a bad attitude and thirst for blood... So he gets his "soul" back, and he's suddenly a different person... except he's not. He came back to sunnydale, where "william" has never been, and interacts with the people who "Spike" knew, with the same basic relationships but more angst. (this is my capsule impression, I haven't seen a lot of the last season). I just don't see any evidence for the "person in there" being gone. Also, saying that he was just "pretending to be better" or trying to get into buffy's pant or whatever, doesn't work during the time Buffy's dead. He has no idea she's ever coming back, but he's there protecting Dawn, trying to live up to the last promise he made to Buffy. And he's disgusted by the buffy bot and doesn't want an image of buffy lusting after him anymore. I dunno, a lot of what I'm reading in defense of the no soul = thing outlook seems to be begging the question. You can't defend an assumption with the assumption. Show me where its demonstrated... Kahuna Burger [/QUOTE]
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