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<blockquote data-quote="Jefe Bergenstein" data-source="post: 7391187" data-attributes="member: 31506">Pretty much this. Captain America is what a fighter should look like at 10th level. They should look like Thor at 15th, casually killing giants in 1 hit, rearranging the flow of rivers, jumping 50+ feet and using their weapons/armor in innovative ways (reflecting spells, breaking floors, attacking everyone in a 30+ radius etc). 15th level rogues should be stealing people's memories or sweet talking the sun into rising early. Casters magic has always been way too reliable and common to keep fighters shackled by some couch potato's feeble imagination of what should be humanly possible. The &quot;muh v-tude&quot; crowd needs to kiss off for a class they aren't even playing. It frankly hurts my suspension of disbelief that any character WOULDN'T know magic in 5e, given how easy it is to apparently learn. Make a gimp fighter class if you really want to play Pippin to someone else's Dr. Strange.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jefe Bergenstein, post: 7391187, member: 31506"] Pretty much this. Captain America is what a fighter should look like at 10th level. They should look like Thor at 15th, casually killing giants in 1 hit, rearranging the flow of rivers, jumping 50+ feet and using their weapons/armor in innovative ways (reflecting spells, breaking floors, attacking everyone in a 30+ radius etc). 15th level rogues should be stealing people's memories or sweet talking the sun into rising early. Casters magic has always been way too reliable and common to keep fighters shackled by some couch potato's feeble imagination of what should be humanly possible. The "muh v-tude" crowd needs to kiss off for a class they aren't even playing. It frankly hurts my suspension of disbelief that any character WOULDN'T know magic in 5e, given how easy it is to apparently learn. Make a gimp fighter class if you really want to play Pippin to someone else's Dr. Strange. [/QUOTE]

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