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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Xarlen" data-source="post: 379289" data-attributes="member: 1060">Well, it doesn't Need it's wings. You telling me that you can't roll over on your side, when laying on the ground? Now, imagine doing that in a free-fall. Not to mention with a Big weight on your back. Just shift enough, and you turn. Considering how flexible dragons are, the writhing *twist* and it could've turned like a cat trying to land on it's feet. Now, I can Understand if the damage that your bow did was enough to Kill it, and thus that was just the flavor text the DM gave (Inventive; I like it). If it wasn't, and the falling damage was, then okay (But it didn't fall that far). Seeing as people don't take damage from a heavy load of equipment when they fall, I wouldn't have given the same penalty to a dragon.Seeing as the Dragon weighed more then the giant (Otherwise, how could the dragon Lift the giant?) I wouldn't think the weight would be enough to crush it, seeing as the Dragon would've weighed more. It's like saying the weight of a human would break a horse's neck.As for the Waste, it's A) A dragon, who's damage reduction would've kicked in, B) The hight/weight as seen above wouldn't have done it, and C) I just hate seeing White dragons trashed easier then horses to Tucker's Kobolds.Of course, this is 1e, so it's understandable. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I just see examples of people using Dragons like fancy orcs. One story I've heard is a 5th level mage killing a Great Red Wyrm by lining explosives around the cave entrance, and when the dragon poked it's head out, he used Burning Hands to blow it, and collapse the stone ontop of it. Or a Novel where a young (teen) king and an apprentice killed a Great Wrym Black dragon, who had survived centuries, wars with Elves, etc, etc.Edit: Just remembered this one: Someone let a barbarian with a 18/00 str, back in 2e, on a Crit, reach down a small dragon's throat, and *pull it inside out*. Or letting a Mage make a called shot with a Fireball at a White Dragon's uvula.I realize it's Character Changing, but in some cases, it's just going a little too far.</blockquote>

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