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<blockquote data-quote="Theory of Games" data-source="post: 9712471" data-attributes="member: 7042201"><p>I knew you'd respond with those and based on the conversation I was having upthread, you're incorrect:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The original description was "different approaches, different focus, different styles". None of the rpgs you listed fit that description, from a pure design perspective. They're all 'tactical turn-based action' rpgs, all mimicking D&D in function just like most video games, which were also primarily inspired by D&D's structure. The only clear difference some ttrpgs have from D&D is genre, but how most of the game engines actually function (dice +/vs. stat) and the options the players have (negotiate, fight, collect gear) are nearly identical in play to D&D. And yeah we can quibble over what "different" means YMMV <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p></p><p>When I think "different approach/focus/style", the first game that really changed things IMO was the <em>Dallas</em> ttrpg, because there was no combat system - the whole game was based on social intrigue. That was 1980, six years after D&D hit shelves. Since then we've had some truly different rpgs created like<em> Fiasco</em>, <em>Alice is Missing </em>and<em> Hillfolk.</em></p><p></p><p>Finally I think Mearls is right: the hobby <s>is leaning towards</s> has embraced easier to operate games, with the success of OSR and PbtA games as evidence.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Theory of Games, post: 9712471, member: 7042201"] I knew you'd respond with those and based on the conversation I was having upthread, you're incorrect: The original description was "different approaches, different focus, different styles". None of the rpgs you listed fit that description, from a pure design perspective. They're all 'tactical turn-based action' rpgs, all mimicking D&D in function just like most video games, which were also primarily inspired by D&D's structure. The only clear difference some ttrpgs have from D&D is genre, but how most of the game engines actually function (dice +/vs. stat) and the options the players have (negotiate, fight, collect gear) are nearly identical in play to D&D. And yeah we can quibble over what "different" means YMMV :rolleyes: When I think "different approach/focus/style", the first game that really changed things IMO was the [I]Dallas[/I] ttrpg, because there was no combat system - the whole game was based on social intrigue. That was 1980, six years after D&D hit shelves. Since then we've had some truly different rpgs created like[I] Fiasco[/I], [I]Alice is Missing [/I]and[I] Hillfolk.[/I] Finally I think Mearls is right: the hobby [S]is leaning towards[/S] has embraced easier to operate games, with the success of OSR and PbtA games as evidence. [/QUOTE]
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