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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 7481505" data-attributes="member: 83242">I agree with you (well except for the Primal Spirits that I removed from my 4e games as well).  However, when you said, "But it’s very, very different than how I would run Nentir Vale." It implied to me that there were some changes you might make.I don't see the need to change it because a change of editions either, so let me re-phrase the question:How would you change the Nentir Vale cosmology?If I was to change something I would:1) Get rid of the part about the Primal Spirits banning Gods and Primordials from the World.  I've never liked that part.  I would keep the primal spirits, but make them a little less powerful than the greater gods and primordials.2) I actually like the idea of the elemental chaos having areas where certain elements dominate, so you have a plane of fire, a plane of water, etc. inside of or attached to the elemental chaos. 3) Put Tiamat back on Avernus.4) Possibly revise the death of Io / birth of Tiamat and Bahamut5) I would not try to weave every old story into the new cosmology.  I much preferred the start of 4e when it was mostly new and sometimes contradictory information.  I liked it less when they tried to weave in old stories (elemental princes, miska & the seven rods, etc.)</blockquote>