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<blockquote data-quote="ZombieRoboNinja" data-source="post: 3925347" data-attributes="member: 54843"><p>Golden Wyvern seems kinda like the 3e default pantheon to me.</p><p></p><p>The default pantheon (in 3e it was the Greyhawk pantheon, I guess) ended up being used in probably half of the campaigns I've played in. In probably another quarter it was the Greyhawk pantheon with altered names. Basically, whenever it was a more hack-and-slash campaign, or else a short one- or two-shot campaign, or even a more RP-intensive campaign without much of a focus on religion, it was enough for our cleric and paladin players to just grab an appropriate name from the PHB. </p><p></p><p>Obviously this didn't impede anyone from introducing their own pantheons, and the rulebooks made it pretty clear how you'd go about adding new gods with their own favored weapons, domains, etc. </p><p></p><p>So I can see "Golden Wyvern" being something like this: wizards will (by default) be associated with arcane orders, just as clerics are (by default) associated with gods in 3e. DMs can stick with the default vanilla orders - "Golden Wyvern," etc. - or they can easily modify them, or create new orders. You can probably even remove the orders altogether, just as in 3e you can have clerics "of an ideal" in a godless world.</p><p></p><p>Try out this analogy a bit (although I'm sure I'm not the first to use it). Do you get upset when you have to memorize a whole new list of gods every campaign, or else have to justify why Corellon is so much more of a jerk in this campaign than he was last time?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ZombieRoboNinja, post: 3925347, member: 54843"] Golden Wyvern seems kinda like the 3e default pantheon to me. The default pantheon (in 3e it was the Greyhawk pantheon, I guess) ended up being used in probably half of the campaigns I've played in. In probably another quarter it was the Greyhawk pantheon with altered names. Basically, whenever it was a more hack-and-slash campaign, or else a short one- or two-shot campaign, or even a more RP-intensive campaign without much of a focus on religion, it was enough for our cleric and paladin players to just grab an appropriate name from the PHB. Obviously this didn't impede anyone from introducing their own pantheons, and the rulebooks made it pretty clear how you'd go about adding new gods with their own favored weapons, domains, etc. So I can see "Golden Wyvern" being something like this: wizards will (by default) be associated with arcane orders, just as clerics are (by default) associated with gods in 3e. DMs can stick with the default vanilla orders - "Golden Wyvern," etc. - or they can easily modify them, or create new orders. You can probably even remove the orders altogether, just as in 3e you can have clerics "of an ideal" in a godless world. Try out this analogy a bit (although I'm sure I'm not the first to use it). Do you get upset when you have to memorize a whole new list of gods every campaign, or else have to justify why Corellon is so much more of a jerk in this campaign than he was last time? [/QUOTE]
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