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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 3929483" data-attributes="member: 2067">Gnomes are in the MM. It's inconvenient. That's the threshold you posed.Character class defines a character more than a kit ever did. This makes it inconvenient. If I want to be a shape-shifting nature with elemental magic or a song-weaving spellcaster and enchanter, what, in the 4e core, should I choose?You don't know this any more than I do, and I posted it as an &quot;if,&quot; whereas you're saying &quot;it's definately not.&quot;In the abscence of evidence for either of these positions, my statement, than &quot;IF this is how it is, THEN it is a problem&quot; remains true.We have no argument, here.Changing the name is an inconvenience. That was the threshold that you posted.Not necessarily. But it is an inconvenience. That's all that was asked, so that's what I delivered. If you want to escalate the demand for &quot;deal breakers,&quot; that's a different question.I've got more inconveniences if you want them. It's not hard to find them.Some are worse than others, but they all make it horribly inconvenient.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 3929483, member: 2067"] Gnomes are in the MM. It's inconvenient. That's the threshold you posed. Character class defines a character more than a kit ever did. This makes it inconvenient. If I want to be a shape-shifting nature with elemental magic or a song-weaving spellcaster and enchanter, what, in the 4e core, should I choose? You don't know this any more than I do, and I posted it as an "if," whereas you're saying "it's definately not." In the abscence of evidence for either of these positions, my statement, than "IF this is how it is, THEN it is a problem" remains true. We have no argument, here. Changing the name is an inconvenience. That was the threshold that you posted. Not necessarily. But it is an inconvenience. That's all that was asked, so that's what I delivered. If you want to escalate the demand for "deal breakers," that's a different question. I've got more inconveniences if you want them. It's not hard to find them. Some are worse than others, but they all make it horribly [B]inconvenient[/B]. [/QUOTE]

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