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Mike Mearls: "D&D Is Uncool Again"
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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 9574772" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>A thing to keep in mind is that oftentimes being "cool" is connected with being small, not known/popular with the average public, and with room for growth. Those people that get in "on the ground floor" as it were get to ride alongside this thing as it gains popularity and cultural cache, helping to drive its "coolness" factor up and up and up. But at a certain point... the thing just becomes so popular and ubiquitous that it's not "cool" anymore because everyone likes or knows about it. Mainstream is not "cool".</p><p></p><p>Thus as a game 5E24 really had no way of ever being considered "cool", because it was just a revamp and adjustment of something already at the peak of its popularity and cultural cache. People have been playing D&D, will keep playing D&D, and will maintain its status in popular culture... but it won't go back to being "cool".</p><p></p><p>Shadowdark can be "cool" because it is small, not known/popular with the average public, and has room for growth. Those people who are all-in on Shadowdark can help build the game by emphasizing its "coolness" to both people within the TTRPG audience as well as people outside of it, and hopefully can drive its popularity and cultural cache forward. But eventually it to will reach its saturation point with both the gaming and non-gaming public and lose its "coolness"... or it'll crash and burn way before that if it just can't keep its footing.</p><p></p><p>Vampire was cool when it first started, but isn't cool anymore. Pathfinder was cool when it first started, but isn't cool anymore. Critical Role was cool when it first started, but isn't cool anymore. They all of course still have their audiences... audiences large enough to perhaps keep the lights on and stay in business... but no one is going to go out of their way to highlight them anymore because most people already have a passing familiarity. And that's where D&D 5E24 is now as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 9574772, member: 7006"] A thing to keep in mind is that oftentimes being "cool" is connected with being small, not known/popular with the average public, and with room for growth. Those people that get in "on the ground floor" as it were get to ride alongside this thing as it gains popularity and cultural cache, helping to drive its "coolness" factor up and up and up. But at a certain point... the thing just becomes so popular and ubiquitous that it's not "cool" anymore because everyone likes or knows about it. Mainstream is not "cool". Thus as a game 5E24 really had no way of ever being considered "cool", because it was just a revamp and adjustment of something already at the peak of its popularity and cultural cache. People have been playing D&D, will keep playing D&D, and will maintain its status in popular culture... but it won't go back to being "cool". Shadowdark can be "cool" because it is small, not known/popular with the average public, and has room for growth. Those people who are all-in on Shadowdark can help build the game by emphasizing its "coolness" to both people within the TTRPG audience as well as people outside of it, and hopefully can drive its popularity and cultural cache forward. But eventually it to will reach its saturation point with both the gaming and non-gaming public and lose its "coolness"... or it'll crash and burn way before that if it just can't keep its footing. Vampire was cool when it first started, but isn't cool anymore. Pathfinder was cool when it first started, but isn't cool anymore. Critical Role was cool when it first started, but isn't cool anymore. They all of course still have their audiences... audiences large enough to perhaps keep the lights on and stay in business... but no one is going to go out of their way to highlight them anymore because most people already have a passing familiarity. And that's where D&D 5E24 is now as well. [/QUOTE]
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