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<blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 9580228" data-attributes="member: 6796468">I've seen a lot of doomerism around the 3.6 million character figure.Basically, CNBC made a 10 minute long D&amp;D advertisement for 2024's ruleset with Jess Lanzillo of WotC and called it a news report. It aired on December 28th, 2024, after D&amp;D's 2024 ruleset hit on September 17th.People have pointed out that D&amp;D Beyond has 19 million users and 3.6 million is a paltry proportion of them. Especially considering &quot;I know a guy who made 4 of those characters!&quot;But this neglects several important pieces of information:1) How many D&amp;D Beyonders use the integrated character builder? The proportion is large, but it's not 100%.2) How many D&amp;D Beyonders were in the middle of 2014 campaigns and didn't have DMs looking to run 2024 immediately? (And thus didn't bother making characters) (Especially relevant since the DMG didn't release 'til November and the Monster Manual HASN'T RELEASED YET)3) How many 2014 Heritage and Archetypes actually work with 2024? (Paladin Oaths and Warlock Pacts, for example, and thus people who wanted to make those, didn't)4) When was the video shot?Now... the first one seems trivial, and the middle ones are of some import... but the last one is also pretty important. 'Cause it determines how much actual time people had with D&amp;D24 before the interview happened.If the video was shot the day after Thanksgiving, for example, when most of the municipal Christmas decorations in New York (where it was filmed) go up, that cuts off a month of potential character-making time.Will D&amp;D24 get heavy market saturation? No one can say, for sure. Anecdotally I can tell you that I know a bunch of folks who plan to stick with 2014 or A5e or another 3rd party 5e-compatible game.What I can tell you, is that D&amp;D isn't going away any time soon. And that even if WotC stopped producing material, tons of people would just move to Pathfinder, DC20, Level Up, and other games further afield.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Steampunkette, post: 9580228, member: 6796468"] I've seen a lot of doomerism around the 3.6 million character figure. Basically, CNBC made a 10 minute long D&D advertisement for 2024's ruleset with Jess Lanzillo of WotC and called it a news report. It aired on December 28th, 2024, after D&D's 2024 ruleset hit on September 17th. People have pointed out that D&D Beyond has 19 million users and 3.6 million is a paltry proportion of them. Especially considering "I know a guy who made 4 of those characters!" But this neglects several important pieces of information: 1) How many D&D Beyonders use the integrated character builder? The proportion is large, but it's not 100%. 2) How many D&D Beyonders were in the middle of 2014 campaigns and didn't have DMs looking to run 2024 immediately? (And thus didn't bother making characters) (Especially relevant since the DMG didn't release 'til November and the Monster Manual HASN'T RELEASED YET) 3) How many 2014 Heritage and Archetypes actually work with 2024? (Paladin Oaths and Warlock Pacts, for example, and thus people who wanted to make those, didn't) 4) When was the video shot? Now... the first one seems trivial, and the middle ones are of some import... but the last one is also pretty important. 'Cause it determines how much actual time people had with D&D24 before the interview happened. If the video was shot the day after Thanksgiving, for example, when most of the municipal Christmas decorations in New York (where it was filmed) go up, that cuts off a month of potential character-making time. Will D&D24 get heavy market saturation? No one can say, for sure. Anecdotally I can tell you that I know a bunch of folks who plan to stick with 2014 or A5e or another 3rd party 5e-compatible game. What I can tell you, is that D&D isn't going away any time soon. And that even if WotC stopped producing material, tons of people would just move to Pathfinder, DC20, Level Up, and other games further afield. [/QUOTE]

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