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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CrashFiend82" data-source="post: 9619690" data-attributes="member: 6778742">The problems I have with Meals post are two fold.1. Complaining about "participation trophies" in a cooperative story-telling game feels really out of whack. Isn't the only WIN in D&D the participation itself. If we wanted competitive games we would be playing board games like Settlers or Wingspan. It feels like it misses the entire market for TTRPGs, which I'm pretty sure is based on hanging out with friends and socializing, in what ever form the group enjoys. Also look at your market, pretty sure most people playing D&D were the folks that received "participation trophies" (not intent as a dig, I know many good athletes that also enjoy D&D).2. I get really rather annoyed with the myth that "parents" invented participation trophies for their entitled children. The history is far more complex. It had long become a problem in the 80s and 90s that young children, those that were not athletic, would quit sports before puberty. Some of those kids underwent profound physical changes, that would have made them more athletic but stayed away. Sadly, it is still a real problem in US sports today, and growing worse. There are a number of studies showing participation in team sports can be socially beneficial. However, the win at all cost mind set has never been one of those positives. The point being TTRPGs can and should be a healthy social alternative, but condescending comments about "slop" doesn't help bring in more participation; which absolutely should be everyone's goal, whether as a designer, DM, player, or fan.</blockquote>

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