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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 9621786" data-attributes="member: 6915329"><sigh> And I'd really hoped you could tell the difference between the BBEG and the GM. Or the difference between "challenge" and "defeat." Do I need to pull up dictionary definitions? Because they defeat and challenge do not mean the same thing at all.And here I have to wonder if you ever read Mearls' post or any of the times I directly copypasted from it because he literally said that the game should do that, not (just) the GM. Here, let me quote him again; it's in the second sentence of the first paragraph:In his words, the GM and the players should be opposed. The GM's goal should be to defeat the players. The game system should work towards that.And his only example in this post is killing three PCs in one round. Let's actually look at that. In the systems I'm aware of, you need a really high roll (natural or modified) to be able to decapitate someone. Possibilities:1. He rolled really well: This is luck and has nothing to do with either the system or GM fiat. His premise fails.2. He cheated to make things dramatic: This is GM fiat, and an expletive-deleted move on his part. His premise fails.3. The system is written in such a way that the wielder can choose when to decapitate on any hit, say, 3/day. This is GM fiat, unless the system is also written to allow the target a defense against it. His premise possibly succeeds, but is quite likely OP unless there's a defense.It's notable that he said he had several games where the PCs suffered setbacks, but this was the only example of the type setback. What happened in those other games? I honestly want to know.He very literally did, as I quoted above. "the GM's goal should be defeating or foiling the players. A good system enables that"It's convenient that you decided to not quote the part of his post that actually said it, too. Dude, you're the one who is selectively quoting him in order to pretend he said something a lot nobler than what he actually said. You're misrepresenting him in order to... what, exactly? Why is defending him so important?</blockquote>

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