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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 6309813" data-attributes="member: 18">Er, sorry, no, you should probably re-read that because you're wrong - his post he explicitly states that he hates GH equally to the FR, but that didn't stop him getting/playing 3.XE. He specifically says "ignore setting material", not "don't buy books with setting material!".So he supports my contention, not yours. He's not happy with it, but doesn't care enough to not buy 5E because of it.We've seen the covers. They don't have FR logos. Do you think they will acquire them?You're being very silly about "FR fans". They won't be upset unless FR-specific products don't have the FR logo, obviously.Because not everyone is you and it's not 1980? Seems like the answer is self-evident.People are far more time-poor now than in 1980, especially adults, who are now the main market for D&D (rather than kids/teens), and pre-written settings have been established as a concept for decades, whereas in 1980, they were still kind of a new idea.Some players, natural storytellers with a strong ability to build worlds and the like, and a decent amount of time, do not need or likely want a setting - but equally it doesn't harm them. My wife started with 4E and has a homebrew setting entirely disconnected from any other D&D setting, but even she found borrowing some of the gods was handy.For others, who can come up with adventures, but struggle with worlds, towns, rulers and so on, especially the time-poor, settings are a god-send.Other still really LOVE settings even though they don't strictly need them, and the FR is an easy one to get into (or can be - late 2E not so much).So it's smart to offer a light default setting, if you want to increase D&D's audience, rather than decrease it. It also makes visual styling and branding easier.Other settings will come, too, I think you can count on that, and the DMG is designed to specifically help homebrewers.</blockquote>

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